DwnWthVwls

One thing I dislike is that people don't really care about sharing music much anymore. I rely on MB and other music related things to explore my music options. I can't remember the last time a friend suggested something, or was interested in something I tried to show them.

Everyone has such easy access to finding their own music that experiences like Plankton described are few and far between.

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LoathsomePete

Does anyone else read the thread title like the beginning of an infomercial?

"Are you fed up? Tired of feeling like nothing is going your way? Maybe now's the time to try The Slap Chop™. But don't just take my word for it, listen to this testimony."
"Before I tried The Slap Chop™ I weight 300 pounds and no woman would touch me, now I have The Slap Chop™"
"If you order now within the next ten minutes, you'll receive this stunning horse carriage clock absolutely free"

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Plankton

Yeah, but humoring is a thing. Same shit different diaper.

Trojan horse spam.

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LoathsomePete

Don't get me wrong I'm not complaining, just wondering if anyone else read the thread title the same way as me, and then I went off on my little bit.

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Plankton

You're not math, so I won't get you wrong.

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LarsfromVinylyMusic

Haha. Yes. Sorry for not finding the perfect language. But that shows that Iam not some kind of marketing guy that only cares about squeezing money out of dumb customers.
Im honestly trying to find a system (or validate the idea i already had) that actually improves the situation of bands. What I thought out there sounds like utopia for bands to me, where they can have vinyl records produced without paying and even earning money without any risk of not selling. And the listener gets to decide himself what he thinks is worth producing, not some kind of label marketing devision that only has stuff produced that they think an audience would like ...

Trollheart

OK, here are my thoughts, for what they're worth. I believe you're on a hiding to nothing here. Reasons? Well, it mostly stems from the need to use vinyl as the medium for the music. You can ask here, and quite a few people do still buy music on vinyl, but they would be a very small percentage of even this forum. Multiply that out across the internet, then the world, and I think you'll find that the percentage of people buying vinyl compared to those using downloads or streaming services is very small indeed.

Of those (the vinyl buyers) many will be of my age (fifties) and somewhat set in their ways. They have their collections, and while they may buy new albums from their favourite artistes, or collectors' editions etc, they're not generally the type who go looking for new music. Most of these would probably live by the axiom "I likes what I likes". Those who are interested in new music generally aren't interested in finding it on vinyl, though of course some are, and finally those who listen to podcasts are I would think mostly young people, who are more in the digital download/Spotify way of listening.

If you had people listen to songs on a podcast and then asked if they would pay to download them, yeah, maybe they would but it only takes one person to record that podcast and they can have them for free. I don't see that model working. I also still don't see the problem: how many artistes have been discovered on YT by record labels, and there are also many people here who play excellent music and release it themselves; we've discovered their music through being in this community. So I can't see a problem at all.

I would recommend talking to innerspaceboy, who is our resident vinyl guru, and may have different views on this.

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LarsfromVinylyMusic

@ Trollheart: Maybe after I have tried this whole concept I will tell myself, you should have listened to the opinion of Trollheart.
But I disagree on your view that younger people are not really interested in music on vinyl, firstly from personal experience and second from studies that show that actually a lot of young people are buying vinyl (although I have to say that those studies say that they might just buy it as a fashion statement without listening to the records ...). I guess the whole discussion comes down to I have to give it a try.

I believe that listeners who really enjoy the music of a certain band also do like to support that band, and if that support can be given by buying their record and not just streaming (emphasis on not just since listening on vinyl in conjunction with streaming actually complements each other quiet well) even better.

@ Khadims: I also dont believe anyone could be fed up with music. But it might be that lots of people are fed up with the "wrong kind of music" (when you dont have access to great recommendations or inspiring insights for whatever reason).

djchameleon

Just wanted to touch on two things, I guess when you were talking about the expense it is more related to vinyl pressings because other than that artists don't have that financial hurdle when they release music on their own and make it available for streaming.

Two, I think the idea of this podcast might work just as long as there is a decent cross section between vinyl buyings and streamers that are tech savvy enough to bother listening to a podcast in the first place. I feel like older customers of yours wouldn't be too into podcasts as much as the young hipsters that flock to your store to get their vinyl gems. Listening to podcasts aren't even a difficult tech thing but you know how some old people are when it comes to anything related to tech/computers.

I don't care about that aspect of music having people share music in person. It's not that great of an experience imo. I will do it every once in awhile but I'd rather not. Maybe it's because of my circle but when I share music with them it doesn't click on the same level as it would someone from a music forum because they are casual music listens and it doesn't really matter to them that much.

I thought about that too reading the thread title but mostly this song.


Yes the damn streets are fed up!
Music is so accessible lately that you don't need great recommendations from others especially if you are more of a casual music listener. Music nerds like us post on this forum and greatly appreciate recs because there is so much music out there that the recs that we get from fellow music nerds will most likely be something we haven't heard of and end up falling in love with it.

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