Chula Vista

It's only January third, and you've already earned your stripes for 2017. Good job.

I was in the 5th grade and over at a buddy's house and he put this on:



My world was turned upside down during those 5 minutes. That kinda stuff happened a lot back then.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Plankton

I feel validated.

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Chula Vista

As you should. You're welcome.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Trollheart

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I'm not quite sure what you see as being a problem, other than, as you seem to have described it, unknown artistes unable to get their music well known. But surely this is not the case, with platforms like Bandcamp, Soundcloud and even YouTube now, it should be much easier for bands to get their music noticed? In the "good ol' days", back when I were a nipper, and as Plankton has already explained, you really had few choices if you a) wanted to hear music or b) wanted to play music. For a: buy it, get a loan off a friend or tape it off the radio. For b: gig, hope to be discovered, shop your demo tape around. Now we have all kinds of outlets for music (including the bloody X Factor!) which makes much of this redundant. So what is the problem?

As your username denotes, you appear to work in or own or at least be involved in a vinyl music store, so is that your problem: that you can't sell vinyl? But then, there's a resurgence in this, as described in a thread made yesterday, so I still don't see the problem. But to answer your basic question without leaning into or worrying about any agenda, hidden or otherwise, I was of the generation that bought LPs and singles, played them on turntables (which we called record players back then) and slowly CDs came onto the scene, for a brief shining moment Minidiscs, then recordable CDs and shortly after that MP3s took over. With the explosion of availability of music on the internet, I can and do download tons of new artistes and albums that I would a) not have bothered with in my youth and b) could not have afforded. So the current situation, from a music buyer's point of view (or, as you say, a listener) is fine. The state of music - some music - on the other hand, and the way it's handled these days, well, that's a story for another thread.

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Plankton

This little exchange kind of reminds me of this:

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LarsfromVinylyMusic

Thanks for the answers so far.
And @ Trollheart: I agree on your view partly. I as a listener do have difficulties to discover music through streaming etc. And the main reason is that the human aspect of recommendation is missing. But I guess that is not a big problem for listeners since they just need to dig a little deeper and find recommendations from friends, forums and blogs...
Your assumption that I have something to do yith a business in Vinyl is correct. And I am not trying to promote anything about it here (in case you wondered).

I think that the situation for smaller bands that are less known could be improved. (Their situation: Low or no income from recorded music, big financial hurdle to produce a physical record, hard to break through the noise since the market is flooded with all kinds of {good and bad} music ...)

When I thought about how to solve or improve that situation of the bands, I thought that in order to create something that really works, it has to be a win win situation for bands and listeners. I'd like to create something that listeners would love and that would really improve the listeners as well as the bands situation.

The idea that I had was to create a podcast where the band brings a selection of songs to be discovered though interview and playing the songs on the podcast. At the end of the podcast episode the listener would get the chance to decide whether or not they think this music should be released on vinyl by pre ordering a vinyl record with that set of songs. So this would be a crowdfunding campaign where the records would be produced as soon as the campaign goal is met.

So I did like this idea personally, but I just need to know if that would be something listeners and potential buyers would enjoy. In other words "Would it solve any problem". But it looks like listeners really don`t have any real problem nowadays.

Zhanteimi

My music odyssey is progressing nicely. No complaints.

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LetsTalkMusic

Plankton

I don't know about anyone else, but when I hear buzzwords like Podcast, and Crowdfunding in a music context, I move on. Personally, that seems like a lot of work to have to sit through a bunch of fluff to get to what may or may not be something I'd enjoy. I'm rather impatient in that sense though.

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LarsfromVinylyMusic

And a shows like "Sockmonkeysounds" or "Sound Opinions", both prolific music podcasts are none of your interest?

Plankton

Never heard of em. And after a quick look into SMS, it appears that they're based in someone's basement in Rockford. A small group of people channeling other peoples music through portals like Facebook and Twitter isn't something that interests me in the least bit. Prolific? Maybe. I don't have the time or inclination to dig through all that.

The most ingenious idea of the last decade or so regarding music discovery is Pandora. I don't use it much, but it does exactly what the average person on a music exploration journey is looking for. However, it's based on genre's that are generated from human interaction in it's database, so there are inherent flaws. Sometimes it'll play a headscratcher, but it mostly works. If you could port that idea to the unknown's, garage bands, home studio jockeys of the world, I'd use it. Most definitely.

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