Music that stands the test of time and still sucks

**Janszoon** · 12-27-2016, 03:02 PM

Ragtime and Dixieland are pretty great to this day.

OccultHawk · 12-27-2016, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

What kind of stick do you constantly have shoved up your ass?

I don't know. When you finish grieving for Princess Leia you can over and check.

OccultHawk · 12-27-2016, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Ragtime and Dixieland are pretty great to this day.

No.

The Batlord · 12-27-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

What kind of stick do you constantly have shoved up your ass?

The same one LiL hides her heroin in.

**Frownland** · 12-27-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Incorrect: it means you think it sucks. A whole different kettle of mackerel, my friend.

There isn't some kind of objective suck meter we can run songs through. If someone believes that the song subjectively sucks, it does to them and you can't really say that they're right or wrong on an objective level. You can say that it doesn't suck and it's on the same level of subjectivity. This is such a simple concept that I'm surprised that it comes up so often on the forums.

So, if a song sucks to you, then you saying that the song sucks doesn't need clarification as to who thinks it sucks.

The Batlord · 12-27-2016, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

There isn't some kind of objective suck meter we can run songs through. If someone believes that the song subjectively sucks, it does to them and you can't really say otherwise to try to convince them that it doesn't. You can say that it doesn't suck and it's on the same level of subjectivity. This is such a simple concept that I'm surprised that it comes up so often on the forums.

It's because whiny, insecure bitches get prune-faced whenever anyone makes them feel self-conscious about the objective garbage they listen to.

Trollheart · 12-27-2016, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Gee

Sorry for the lack of clarity

Put it like this: if it appealed to simpleton dilweeds back then time doesn't make it any better

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I don't know. When you finish grieving for Princess Leia you can over and check.

Two extremely insensitive things in one thread said by the one person. Well done. Respect for the dead, no?

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

No.

In your opinion.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

There isn't some kind of objective suck meter we can run songs through. If someone believes that the song subjectively sucks, it does to them and you can't really say that they're right or wrong on an objective level. You can say that it doesn't suck and it's on the same level of subjectivity. This is such a simple concept that I'm surprised that it comes up so often on the forums.

So, if a song sucks to you, then you saying that the song sucks doesn't need clarification as to who thinks it sucks.

The title of the thread leads one to believe that the OP meant that it sucks generally, which I would take to mean, had no real merit. FFS, I can say rap or punk sucks; doesn't make it so. Of course you can be objective when you're basically asking people to vote or comment on music that has been around for decades. You can't simply dismiss a whole genre by saying it sucks. Isn't this what you all got on my back for about jazz?

What about your music? If I say it sucks, does it suck? If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does Frownland make music out of it?

**Frownland** · 12-27-2016, 06:36 PM

"In your opinion" is redundant as ****. It's obviously an opinion. It's like pointing out that people are talking about shoes when they mention how they love Jordan's.

Trollheart · 12-27-2016, 06:45 PM

So if I say "jazz is ****" you're ok with that? Yeah. Right. I know exactly what you'd say. Stop with the double standards, man. If this was my thread you'd be pulling me up on a post like Hawk made, you know you would. Stop arguing with me just for the sake of arguing. Join me, and together we can rule this world!

**Janszoon** · 12-27-2016, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

No.

I didn't mean for squares.

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Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	Ragtime and Dixieland are pretty great to this day. __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	"In your opinion" is redundant as ***. It's obviously an opinion. It's like pointing out that people are talking about shoes when they mention how they love Jordan's. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.* d e a f b o x

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Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	So if I say "jazz is ***" you're ok with that? Yeah. Right. I know exactly what you'd say. Stop with the double standards, man. If this was my thread you'd be pulling me up on a post like Hawk made, you know you would. Stop arguing with me just for the sake of arguing. Join me, and together we can rule this world! __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018*