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JGuy Grungeman 09-16-2016 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1745018)
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Operation Mindcrime was the one I was talking about. That's what album. If you're saying "What Metallica album is that song of off," (which I doubt you wouldn't know), it's Master of Puppets.

Frownland 09-16-2016 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745020)
Operation Mindcrime was the one I was talking about. That's what album. If you're saying "What Metallica album is that song of off," (which I doubt you wouldn't know), it's Master of Puppets.

...there is not a song called In Madness You Dwell on MoP.

This is exactly what I was talking about, btw.

JGuy Grungeman 09-16-2016 10:47 AM

The Thing Thart Should Not Be. I got the title confused.

Frownland 09-16-2016 10:48 AM

How often do you think your top songs change?

Terrapin_Station 09-16-2016 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745000)
I don't see what's so hard for people to pick faves.

It's hard if you take it literally and you don't have a small number of favorites and instead there's a ton of stuff you like about the same amount.

I mean, I can just pick random stuff that I like and say that, and because music discussions online are so oriented towards favorite this, favorite that, rank this, rank that, I developed some stock answers for those things just so that I could participate, but that doesn't really make those things favorites above everything else if I'm trying to answer literally/honestly.

Thelonious Monkey 09-16-2016 10:53 AM

Just name something. Anything you like. Give me something we can discuss. You pretty much end the conversation if you say you like everything.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 09-16-2016 10:55 AM

I like Shania Twain.

*high fives Batty*

Terrapin_Station 09-16-2016 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by _Violet_ (Post 1745027)
Just name something. Anything you like. Give me something we can discuss. You pretty much end the conversation if you say you like everything.

Yeah, again "I can just pick random stuff that I like and say that."

I don't get into many real-life conversations where someone would just ask "what kind of music do you like" without there being any context for it that would steer my question to particular things.

The Batlord 09-16-2016 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745012)
I've got fifteen hundred, and it's still seriously easy.

That's because you're more concerned with your dumb numbering system than actually listening to music.

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745022)
The Thing Thart Should Not Be. I got the title confused.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1745031)
I like Shania Twain.

*high fives Batty*

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JGuy Grungeman 09-16-2016 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1745063)
That's because you're more concerned with your dumb numbering system than actually listening to music.[/IMG]

Total misconception. And what "numbering system?" Just because I estimate the amount of albums I listen to, there is nothing to hint at me not actually feeling the music. You're saying I don't feel the overwherlming emotions in Bridge Over Troub;led Water, which I love BECAUSE of it's emotion? What abouyt my Popol Vuh review? That was all about the feelings and imagery I got. The fact that I'm not good at speaking the emotions I feel when I listen to an album doesn't mean I don't feel anything.

Frownland 09-16-2016 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745095)
The fact that I'm not good at speaking the emotions I feel when I listen to an album doesn't mean I don't feel anything.

That's usually exactly what it means.

The Batlord 09-16-2016 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745095)
Total misconception. And what "numbering system?" Just because I estimate the amount of albums I listen to, there is nothing to hint at me not actually feeling the music. You're saying I don't feel the overwherlming emotions in Bridge Over Troub;led Water, which I love BECAUSE of it's emotion? What abouyt my Popol Vuh review? That was all about the feelings and imagery I got. The fact that I'm not good at speaking the emotions I feel when I listen to an album doesn't mean I don't feel anything.

Your goofy 1-100 rating system.

JGuy Grungeman 09-16-2016 01:33 PM

Speech and thought are two different things. They might go hand in hand a lot, but no one will tell me I don't feel anything.

Simon and Garfunkel, one of my favorites because of their powerr to envoke emotions. Nick Cave, one of my new favorites because of his way of combining his artistic talent with his unique sense of darkness and depression. I play happy songs whenever I feel like I need cheering up. I don't listen to Meat Loaf very often anymore because I tend to get angry after listening to it. And his music is FULL of anger. I got srriously depressed during my long AiC buzz a couple years ago. I even got people to understand the difference between punk "angst" and grunge "angst." You can't really do that without feeling the emoiton. Music has had a huge impact on me emotionally, but I prefer not to talk about my emotions on the forums because I'm trying to get a hold of my emotions. You know how agitated I can be, so why bother talking about my emotions? Because of this, I'm not good at speaking them.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1745098)
Your goofy 1-100 rating system.

You mean a common rating system that's too smart for 1-5 stars?

The Batlord 09-16-2016 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745101)
You mean a common rating system that's too smart for 1-5 stars?

No one on Earth rates an album a 91 except you. Cause no one can tell the difference between a 91 and a 92.

duga 09-16-2016 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1745096)
That's usually exactly what it means.

I'm gonna back up JGuy on this one - people typically assume I'm an emotionless robot because I can be a fairly stoic kind of person. Even in stressful situations, I try to keep an even keel, so people assume I must be emotionally stunted or something. I'm actually a very empathic person and I listen to music to sort through a lot of the emotions I have a hard time communicating.

You can't assume someone doesn't have emotions just because they have a hard time articulating them.

JGuy Grungeman 09-16-2016 01:39 PM

Unless they've heard enough albums they would put above 9 and below 9.5. And if it's not so common and people don't do it, why do so many websites allow people to choose which rating system they'd like? These includes a 5 star rating, 1-10, 1-10 including decimals, and 1-100. In flact, Glitchwave is doing that.

P.S. Glitchwave is RYM's video game website that I occasionally do beta-testing on.

And another good reason why I don't express my emotions on the forums is because I have a history of people taking advantage of my lack of self-control.

Frownland 09-16-2016 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1745104)
I'm gonna back up JGuy on this one - people typically assume I'm an emotionless robot because I can be a fairly stoic kind of person. Even in stressful situations, I try to keep an even keel, so people assume I must be emotionally stunted or something. I'm actually a very empathic person and I listen to music to sort through a lot of the emotions I have a hard time communicating.

You can't assume someone doesn't have emotions just because they have a hard time articulating them.

"This music is very emotive."

Boom.

duga 09-16-2016 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1745107)
"This music is very emotive."

Boom.

Something a robot could say. It doesn't actually mean anything.

The Batlord 09-16-2016 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745105)
Unless they've heard enough albums they would put above 9 and below 9.5. And if it's not so common and people don't do it, why do so many websites allow people to choose which rating system they'd like? These includes a 5 star rating, 1-10, 1-10 including decimals, and 1-100. In flact, Glitchwave is doing that.

P.S. Glitchwave is RYM's video game website that I occasionally do beta-testing on.

And another good reason why I don't express my emotions on the forums is because I have a history of people taking advantage of my lack of self-control.

Yeah, no. If you think you can tell the difference between single points then you're probably just being delusional and OCD.

Frownland 09-16-2016 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1745108)
Something a robot could say. It doesn't actually mean anything.

To be fair, a robot can say pretty much anything, so long as it isn't a paradox.

I was initially just being a little trolly, but if you put it simply as that it'll convey the same idea, even if it's not in as much detail.

duga 09-16-2016 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1745110)
To be fair, a robot can say pretty much anything, so long as it isn't a paradox.

I was initially just being a little trolly, but if you put it simply as that it'll convey the same idea, even if it's not in as much detail.

I agree. I was really just making the point that just because someone has a hard time saying exactly what they are feeling, it doesn't mean they aren't feeling anything.

JGuy Grungeman 09-16-2016 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1745109)
Yeah, no. If you think you can tell the difference between single points then you're probably just being delusional and OCD.



And I assume being OCD means I'm dumb in every area? No. OCD behavior can improve some areasd of the mind while other areas (usually ones revolving around social behavior) are generally not as advanced as the average human. I'm pretty sure my past behavior hasd proven that.

But all in all, that means I have heard enough albums to be able to do so. I'm not going to go on a long speech using examples or anything, but I'm not changing my rating system simply because you're annoyed by something as trivial as the differences between two people's rating systems.

Btw, I think there are more than enough albums in the woprld to have up to 100 numbers that can be used to rate the quality.

Frownland 09-16-2016 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745113)
OCD behavior can improve some areasd of the mind while other areas (usually ones revolving around social behavior) are generally not as advanced as the average human. I'm pretty sure my past behavior hasd proven that.

Man, I wish I had OCD.

JGuy Grungeman 09-16-2016 01:49 PM

We're having an OCD-People-Only party at my house tonight.

The Batlord 09-16-2016 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745113)
And I assume being OCD means I'm dumb in every area? No. OCD behavior can improve some areasd of the mind while other areas (usually ones revolving around social behavior) are generally not as advanced as the average human. I'm pretty sure my past behavior hasd proven that.

But all in all, that means I have heard enough albums to be able to do so. I'm not going to go on a long speech using examples or anything, but I'm not changing my rating system simply because you're annoyed by something as trivial as the differences between two people's rating systems.

OMG when you talk about the number of albums you've heard it makes you look like you're begging to be taken seriously as a music fan.

The Batlord 09-16-2016 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1745114)
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JGuy Grungeman 09-16-2016 01:51 PM

I said I've heard enough. There was nothing about an exact number in that. Would you say the same thing to a painter who didn't know the exact number but said "enough to call myself a skilled artist" simply because of all the practice? And I'm not putting myself on the same pedestal as a great painter, but I'm usin the example.

Frownland 09-16-2016 01:51 PM

The exact number of...paintings that he's looked at?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1745119)
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I think I understand Ki a little better after that post.

The Batlord 09-16-2016 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745120)
I said I've heard enough. There was nothing about an exact number in that. Would you say the same thing to a painter who didn't know the exact number but said "enough to call myself a skilled artist" simply because of all the practice? And I'm not putting myself on the same pedestal as a great painter, but I'm usin the example.

Wait how many albums have you recorded?

Frownland 09-16-2016 01:55 PM

I've released more albums than This Heat, therefore I am more skilled than any of the musicians in the band.

Am I doing it right?

JGuy Grungeman 09-16-2016 01:56 PM

Painting's he's PAINTED. He's a PAINTER. I've made that clear as I called him a painter. I fail how to see how that wasn't obvious, or at least how you didn't even think about what I was saying.

I know it wasn't the best example, but say I was talking about "Things to rate that I've rated."

Frownland 09-16-2016 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745125)
Painting's he's PAINTED. He's a PAINTER. I've made that clear as I called him a painter. I fail how to see how that wasn't obvious, or at least how you didn't even think about what I was saying.

I know it wasn't the best example, but say I was talking about "Things to rate that I've rated."

A painter who paints only one great painting and nothing else is a skilled painter. A painter who paints a million and a half ****e paintings is not a skilled painter. I fail to see how that isn't obvious, or at least how you didn't even consider that your analogy might not be perfect.

The Batlord 09-16-2016 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745125)
Painting's he's PAINTED. He's a PAINTER. I've made that clear as I called him a painter. I fail how to see how that wasn't obvious, or at least how you didn't even think about what I was saying.

I know it wasn't the best example, but say I was talking about "Things to rate that I've rated."

You mean like an art critic? If an art critic told me how many paintings he'd seen I'd assume he was a shallow, pretentious ****.

JGuy Grungeman 09-16-2016 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1745127)
A painter who paints only one great painting and nothing else is a skilled painter. A painter who paints a million and a half ****e paintings is not a skilled painter. I fail to see how that isn't obvious, or at least how you didn't even consider that your analogy might not be perfect.

It's just called recognizing the things you do better than other things you do. And I even flat-out said it wasn't the best analogy.

OK, I'll let you decide. How good or bad of a critic do you think I am? Am I decent? Does the 100 system annoy you or interest you? Have I improved since I first got here?

Ninetales 09-16-2016 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1745103)
No one on Earth rates an album a 91 except you. Cause no one can tell the difference between a 91 and a 92.

Doesn't Pitchfork rate albums this way?

But I do agree, I find immense rating systems to be pretty useless. The point of "ratings" (imo at least) is to place an album into a general tier, which fragmenting them into decimals sort of takes away from. Even if intuitively (or god forbid: mathematically) you figured "Album X is a 92", it means nothing to most people when they're comparing that to your 91s or 94s. It's the ballpark you're aiming for, not the bullseye.

JGuy Grungeman 09-16-2016 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1745131)
you figured "Album X is a 92", it means nothing to most people when they're comparing that to your 91s or 94s. It's the ballpark you're aiming for, not the bullseye.

This, I totally get.

The Batlord 09-16-2016 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745129)
It's just called recognizing the things you do better than other things you do. And I even flat-out said it wasn't the best analogy.

OK, I'll let you decide. How good or bad of a critic do you think I am? Am I decent? Does the 100 system annoy you or interest you? Have I improved since I first got here?

If I read one of your reviews I usually skip to the end cause you tend to bloviate.

JGuy Grungeman 09-16-2016 02:21 PM

I'll try tro tone down on the bloviating then.

Frownland 09-16-2016 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1745129)
It's just called recognizing the things you do better than other things you do. And I even flat-out said it wasn't the best analogy.

OK, I'll let you decide. How good or bad of a critic do you think I am? Am I decent? Does the 100 system annoy you or interest you? Have I improved since I first got here?

You like a lot of crap so you're a bad critic.

JGuy Grungeman 09-16-2016 02:30 PM

Says the guy who admits his own music is ****. :P


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