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MicShazam 09-04-2016 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1740507)
They released their debut album in Oct 30th, 2001. So they should count.

Ah ok, I thought they were closer to when FNM did their last album.

The Music Observer 09-05-2016 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1740279)
I look at your website, and read some articles. I hope you don't mind if I ask a few questions:

Did you study music composition as a musician or as a music critic?

Did you listen to every album release by each musician/band in your top 50?

What genre would you say you tend to listen to more? (on your own, not something related to your blog, or what you had to listen to in college.)

What do you think is the best way to share one's taste in music, or write reviews: blog, YT vlog, music forum, facebook, or (other)?

I saw you use four categories to review music. Have you read "What to Listen for in Music, by Aaron Copland" what do you think of it?

Thank you for visiting my website! I'm glad you have questions; it means you are genuinely interested and I appreciate that.

I studied Music Composition strictly as a musician. My fascination with music journalism/critiquing came on as an afterthought. It started as a hobby and has since gotten more fruitful. The majority of my free time is still spent writing music, though.

The process in making my top 50 list was a long one, but there was no way I could listen to every single album by all musicians for this project. Once I saw that it was going to be this big of a commitment, I gathered a huge list of about 150 musicians/bands based on who I already knew was worthy plus many suggestions from friends and emails through the website. I listened to one full album from each musician as a preliminary round (the album I decided to listen to was based off of either multiple suggestions or research into which one shows off their most notable sound). Using three of my four categories for review as best I could, I eliminated from there and then did a second listening of the remaining 70 or so, this time with another album that I either listened to fully or partially. I got down to 60 and then listened to individual songs to finish out the ranking. It wasn't the perfect way to do it, but I feel like it accomplished what I set out to do.

If it's just for enjoyment and I'm not listening critically, I tend to rotate between 60's-70's classic rock, Renaissance-era choral motets, and Romantic-era symphonies.

I'm still looking for an answer as to how to share music, and thoughts on music, in the best way. I'd say there isn't one way that's always best. Since I've had a lot of musical training and done a lot of reading/thinking about music, setting up a website as my own platform was a good way to go for me. I feel like that is best when there's a large amount of material to talk about, and if it can be formulaic in some way. I've also reached out to Facebook and sites like this one and have liked the results. As long as you believe you have something important to share, any social media outlet seems to do.

Yes, and I love that book! Some of my music collegues didn't like it much because it wasn't academic enough and it seemed to talk down to them, but I found it to be truly insightful as someone who simply appreciates music. Both Copland's book and "How Music Works" by David Byrne were important for me in learning not only how music is perceived, but how to be accepting of many different musical facets and tastes. I liked how Copland explained the music experience as being in layers. There really is no right and wrong in how to experience music; we are all simply on different layers and therefore have different experiences.

I hope this helps!

MicShazam 09-05-2016 03:49 PM

If you wanna reach people who don't already geek out with music, maybe writing isn't the way forward.
Who would read articles on a music review site? People who are already actively interested in music in a somewhat deeper way than your average Joe.
I'm saying this because your original post gives me the impression that you want to show the "plebians" how to appreciate the best artists or something. If that's what is going on, I think that playing good music for people is going to do a hell of a lot more good than writing about it.
I mostly stopped writing reviews on a blog myself because I felt like I was just preaching to the choir.
I'm just throwing some thoughts around. Don't take it as a dismissal of your ideas.

The Music Observer 09-05-2016 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman (Post 1740345)
I'm gonna see if I can make an example one.

1. Arcade Fire
2. Sufjan Stevens
3. Kanye West
Joanna Newsom
Amy Winehouse
Kendrick Lamar
Animal Collective
The National
The Strokes
Adele
Kelly Clarkson
LCD Soundsystem
Tame Impala
Carly Rae Jespen
Mastodon
Vampire Weekend
Fleet Foxes
Steven Wilson
Death Grips
Sun Kil Moon
Gotye (I'ma say it)


All I got so far.

That's a solid list from my perspective. Winehouse, Fleet Foxes, and The National are all ones that could've easily made my list too. I have to admit I never really gave a second thought to Joanna Newsom. Seeing how highly you rate her I'll have to give her another shot. It seems as though the huge names of today are really difficult to come to a consensus on, and while you shared with me your displeasure with Lady Gaga I'll go ahead and express my distaste for Kanye West. I could go into my full opinion on him more, but to put it succinctly his sound lacks inspiration and musicianship to me. But, to each his own. I think it's fair to say that mainstream radio music as a whole lags far behind other genres in quality.

The Music Observer 09-05-2016 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1740776)
If you wanna reach people who don't already geek out with music, maybe writing isn't the way forward.
Who would read articles on a music review site? People who are already actively interested in music in a somewhat deeper way than your average Joe.
I'm saying this because your original post gives me the impression that you want to show the "plebians" how to appreciate the best artists or something. If that's what is going on, I think that playing good music for people is going to do a hell of a lot more good than writing about it.
I mostly stopped writing reviews on a blog myself because I felt like I was just preaching to the choir.
I'm just throwing some thoughts around. Don't take it as a dismissal of your ideas.

Yeah, that certainly makes sense. You do have to know your audience. I'm still learning about it on the fly. For me, coming from an academic standpoint I knew that what I had to say about music would mostly be appreciated by other musicians and those who actively seek music reviews, so I created a site. My recent "Top 50" article was a diversion from that, as you said, so I guess part of it is just knowing who you are targeting. That's why I lightened up on some musical vocabulary and included songs to play with the article. But I'm still trying to figure out the best ways myself. It's tough to write specific music reviews because if it's too distant from mainstream culture it won't get any traction, but if it's a widely held viewpoint then it might not be worth saying.

Justthefacts 09-05-2016 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Music Observer (Post 1740779)
That's a solid list from my perspective. Winehouse, Fleet Foxes, and The National are all ones that could've easily made my list too. I have to admit I never really gave a second thought to Joanna Newsom. Seeing how highly you rate her I'll have to give her another shot. It seems as though the huge names of today are really difficult to come to a consensus on, and while you shared with me your displeasure with Lady Gaga I'll go ahead and express my distaste for Kanye West. I could go into my full opinion on him more, but to put it succinctly his sound lacks inspiration and musicianship to me. But, to each his own. I think it's fair to say that mainstream radio music as a whole lags far behind other genres in quality.

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Minus the Kanye West bash. Don't be silly now, he's a genius.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 09-05-2016 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts (Post 1740793)
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Minus the Kanye West bash. Don't be silly now, he's a genius.

****ing right.

Frownland 09-05-2016 07:57 PM

Kanye is one of the greatest innovators of mediocre hip hop.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 09-05-2016 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1740811)
Kanye is one of the greatest innovators of mediocre hip hop.

Your mom is one of the greatest innovators of mediocre hip hop.

Frownland 09-05-2016 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1740824)
Your mom is one of the greatest innovators of mediocre hip hop.

Dumbwitegurlz did pave the road for a lot of lame crap.


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