No--just someone who believes that aesthetic value (in this case) is or can be objective rather than subjective. Or in other words, someone who believes that music being good or bad can be independent of how individuals feel about the music in question.

Eh, to a very very very small degree, yes. I largely think that it's almost entirely impossible to overcome our biases towards forms of music though, which means that it's better to call it subjective because of how difficult it would be to establish objectivity on art. I've always been interested in researching music taste through neuroscience and seeing if there's some kind of "universal song" that evades culture and appeals to the human brain on an almost instinctual level. It'd be really interesting if we can circumvent composition for some music and create it on a rationalized level based on that information. We already know some things like repetition being appealing, but I think the field needs to dig deeper and see if maybe there is a level of objectivity to music.

Well, (near) universality would be different than objectivity though. For one, say it's near universal to feel that a particular piece of music is good, and of course that would be due to brain functioning and so on. But along comes someone whose brain works differently, and he feels that that same piece sucks. He's not wrong in that just because he feels differently. He's just unusual.

If aesthetic quality were objective, though, he should be wrong. He'd be perceiving the quality of the piece incorrectly, and he should be just as wrong that it sucks as he'd be if he insisted that the moon were made of cheese.

The universality thing was more of a tangent that got kicked off by my idea that establishing the objectivity as more than a firmly stated subjectivity could be done by that type of research.

I love it when conversation gets deeper than Evangelion

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I almost want to introduce my children to Merzbow before any other music, just to see what would happen. (Also, I don't have any children.)

Whatever you immerse them in as infants will have an impact. I come from a family of music lovers, and from the time I was a baby--I was born in the early 60s--my dad constantly played pre British Invasion rock 'n' roll, doo-wop, R&B, blues, country, etc., while my mom was very on top of current pop, so she was following the Beach Boys, Beatles, Stones, Who, Dylan, etc. right from the start and I heard that stuff all the time, too. My older sister and an uncle were into popular music as well as more obscure stuff, psychedelic music, early hard rock/metal, etc., and my grandfather was heavily into classical, jazz and pre-rock pop. So I grew up listening to all of that stuff rather than kids music or anything like that.

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OP was written so novel and hipster like and the Grammer was top notch I couldn't quite read it right can u dumb it down 4 me LOL