Big Four Bands Thread Round 19: Gothic Rock

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Keep the politics here guys.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Keep the politics here guys.

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Honestly, if you just do nothing but Deadpool memes, you'll become my new favorite person on this forum. Lol.

[The Batlord]

[William_the_Bloody]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Lol, love it, Captain America is a sensitive man.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Not incompatible. Rules in art are either nonexistent or incomprehensibly nebulous. There's always a way to make art "good". It's just that many people who want to bitch about politics AND make music are young narcissists with a chip on their shoulder who just want to tell everyone else how much better they are than everyone else.

I agree, when I listen to music I don't want to hear the political viewpoint of a 21 year old Marxist airhead. That is why at the end of the day AC/DC is loaded into my Itunes, and Anti Flag is buried somewhere on an external hard drive.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

I agree, when I listen to music I don't want to hear the political viewpoint of a 21 year old Marxist airhead. That is why at the end of the day AC/DC is loaded into my Itunes, and Anti Flag is buried somewhere on an external hard drive.

And this is why I take the Sex Pistols over the Clash. The Clash are as close to being objectively a better band as you can get, but for the most part I don't have to deal with all the bull**** politics. And when I do, I can usually just pass it off as amusingly childish trolling ("God Save the Queen" or "Bodies"), or the song kinda sucks anyway so who cares ("Holiday in the Sun").

[William_the_Bloody]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

And this is why I take the Sex Pistols over the Clash. The Clash are as close to being objectively a better band as you can get, but for the most part I don't have to deal with all the bull**** politics. And when I do, I can usually just pass it off as amusingly childish trolling ("God Save the Queen" or "Bodies"), or the song kinda sucks anyway so who cares ("Holiday in the Sun").

I hear you, The Clash doesn't bother me too much though, they just have that whole liberal "feed the world" Bono thing going on.

I get annoyed with the whole anti capitalist "the United States is the root of all evil" message, and needs to be replaced. Replaced with what? The guys in Anti Flag couldn't run a popsicle stand let alone a business, if they ever got into power, we'd have an economic meltdown.

Speaking of The Clash that reminds me to do another album review.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

I hear you, The Clash doesn't bother me too much though, they just have that whole liberal "feed the world" Bono thing going on.

I get annoyed with the whole anti capitalist "the United States is the root of all evil" message, and needs to be replaced. Replaced with what? The guys in Anti Flag couldn't run a popsicle stand let alone a business, if they ever got into power, we'd have an economic meltdown.

Speaking of The Clash that reminds me to do another album review.

Yeah the US sucks in a lot of ways, but we're still a step up from pretty much any other empire in history. I don't see us as a city on a hill or whatever the ****, but I guess we do more good for global stability than we do evil with our self-interested military operations. Maybe the world doesn't need a "world police" anymore, but I don't know that it would be a good idea to test that theory.

And most punk bands who bitch about us just come across as ignorant utopians who might have valid points, but are too into being counter-culture whiners to have any appreciation of pragmatism.

[William_the_Bloody]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yeah the US sucks in a lot of ways, but we're still a step up from pretty much any other empire in history. I don't see us as a city on a hill or whatever the ****, but I guess we do more good for global stability than we do evil with our self-interested military operations. Maybe the world doesn't need a "world police" anymore, but I don't know that it would be a good idea to test that theory.

And most punk bands who bitch about us just come across as ignorant utopians who might have valid points, but are too into being counter-culture whiners to have any appreciation of pragmatism.

Well the world has been run by empire's since the Bronze Age, and as far as Empire's go the United States has been pretty benevolent, but when utopia is your benchmark I guess the US looks fairly despotic.

Human nature is a rather nasty affair, so of course the US engages in all sorts of power plays that screw over people in other parts of the world, but at the end of the day, you gave us a democratic Germany, Japan and South Korea, restored democracy and wealth to Eastern Europe, helped with the growth of democracy in South America, and advanced the world's life expectancy with your technological advances in medical science, but most importantly though, you gave us blue jeans and the Big Mac. I'll miss you guys when China is in charge.

[The Batlord]

**** Big Macs. It's all about the Baconator.