Big Four Bands Thread Round 19: Gothic Rock

JGuy Grungeman · 07-23-2016, 10:24 AM

Don't go to wikipedia for your freak follk recs. Wikipedia has a bad habit of getting genre tags wrong.

Of course, RYM's description is a bit off. They consider avant-folk and freak folk to be separate (looking up more info, I realized a few days ago there's no difference... but then again, I never got into freak folk until now). Not to mention, thjeir page says freak folk evolved in the late 90's.

All I can gather is that it's a subgenre of psychedelic folk that came around during the late 60's-early 70's, and it's heavily experimental due to its avant-garde musical influence.

EDEI: My suggestion to you is go to websites like Last.fm and RYM to find albums tagged as freak folk or avant-folk, and listen to a few of those, and then decide for yourself what it's like.

**Frownland** · 07-23-2016, 11:11 AM

Experimental folk = freak folk

JGuy Grungeman · 07-23-2016, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Experimental folk = freak folk

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

Pretty much.

bob. · 07-23-2016, 12:04 PM

like elphenor....i'm really confused about this "genre"...so before i list my bands i just want clarity

you all are saying basically anything tagged "freak folk", "experimental folk", and "avant folk" are all acceptable answers?

when i google the genre "freak folk" it seems every page i read...not just wiki ....basically states that 'freak folk" is a genre basically started by Devendra Banhart and is basically a neo hippy movement of traditional (i only assume the mean American not European) folk music with odd tuning strange vocals and often utilizing strange instruments

NONE of the bands i plan on listing fall under that but are tagged with one of the three seemingly acceptable tags

JGuy Grungeman · 07-23-2016, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bob.

traditional (i only assume the mean American not European) folk music with odd tuning strange vocals and often utilizing strange instruments

I fail to see how Emuma, Nico, and Tim Buckley didn't do that in the 70's.

bob. · 07-23-2016, 01:15 PM

ok

i'm not going to argue with you about what is what....i was simply trying to get a defining answer to a rather umbrella like "genre" that nobody seems to agree on....there is no need to attempt to be condescending

Lisnaholic · 07-23-2016, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

So is Freak Folk solo acoustic music by weirdos basically?
I only know Daniel Johnston

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

^ He certainly fits the category, elphenor, but there are plenty of other artists too:-
http://www.musicbanter.com/country-f...folk-week.html

^ I don't know if I'm wrong, paranoid or invisible, but doesn't this link that I posted earlier give a pretty good idea of what is and isn't Freak Folk? Pedestrian's thread has a definition and a sub-link to RYM's greatest FFers.

If I'm allowed to vote, I'd like to go for:-

Big Blood
Spirogyra
Syd Barratt
David Thomas Broughton

bob. · 07-23-2016, 04:34 PM

i'll just go with it

Current 93
16 Horesepower
Comus
Angels of Light

Neapolitan · 07-23-2016, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Experimental folk = freak folk

So would John Fahey, Nick Drake, Donovan and Pentangle be Experimental Folk? How about Sad Barrettes?

JGuy Grungeman · 07-23-2016, 07:26 PM

OJ, let's just go with anyone tagged as freak folk or avant-folk on Discogs, Allmusic, RYM, and Last.fm.

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07-23-2016, 10:24 AM	#541 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	Don't go to wikipedia for your freak follk recs. Wikipedia has a bad habit of getting genre tags wrong. Of course, RYM's description is a bit off. They consider avant-folk and freak folk to be separate (looking up more info, I realized a few days ago there's no difference... but then again, I never got into freak folk until now). Not to mention, thjeir page says freak folk evolved in the late 90's. All I can gather is that it's a subgenre of psychedelic folk that came around during the late 60's-early 70's, and it's heavily experimental due to its avant-garde musical influence. EDEI: My suggestion to you is go to websites like Last.fm and RYM to find albums tagged as freak folk or avant-folk, and listen to a few of those, and then decide for yourself what it's like. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me. Last edited by JGuy Grungeman; 07-23-2016 at 10:30 AM.

07-23-2016, 11:11 AM	#542 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Experimental folk = freak folk __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

07-23-2016, 12:04 PM	#544 (permalink)
bob. Still sends his reguards. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Trying to get out of the cat town.... Posts: 5,039	like elphenor....i'm really confused about this "genre"...so before i list my bands i just want clarity you all are saying basically anything tagged "freak folk", "experimental folk", and "avant folk" are all acceptable answers? when i google the genre "freak folk" it seems every page i read...not just wiki ....basically states that 'freak folk" is a genre basically started by Devendra Banhart and is basically a neo hippy movement of traditional (i only assume the mean American not European) folk music with odd tuning strange vocals and often utilizing strange instruments NONE of the bands i plan on listing fall under that but are tagged with one of the three seemingly acceptable tags __________________ A kiss is the beginning of cannibalism. Reach out, pierce the fine fabric of the sheltering sky, take repose.

07-23-2016, 01:15 PM	#546 (permalink)
bob. Still sends his reguards. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Trying to get out of the cat town.... Posts: 5,039	ok i'm not going to argue with you about what is what....i was simply trying to get a defining answer to a rather umbrella like "genre" that nobody seems to agree on....there is no need to attempt to be condescending __________________ A kiss is the beginning of cannibalism. Reach out, pierce the fine fabric of the sheltering sky, take repose.

07-23-2016, 04:34 PM	#548 (permalink)
bob. Still sends his reguards. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Trying to get out of the cat town.... Posts: 5,039	i'll just go with it Current 93 16 Horesepower Comus Angels of Light __________________ A kiss is the beginning of cannibalism. Reach out, pierce the fine fabric of the sheltering sky, take repose.

07-23-2016, 07:26 PM	#550 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	OJ, let's just go with anyone tagged as freak folk or avant-folk on Discogs, Allmusic, RYM, and Last.fm. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.