Big Four Bands Thread Round 19: Gothic Rock

[Terrapin_Station]

Say what?

[Neapolitan]

Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

It might make it easier to choose for me. As far as I know it doesn't really go past, say 1994 or 1995, so I guess I'll stick with that and say:

Beastie Boys
Public Enemy
Geto Boys
Ice Cube

By why fret over it? I mean shouldn't we be voting for people listen or know about. I mean I'm no hip-hop expert that is why I voted for The Fresh Prince cause he's Will Smith in the movies.

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

@blank In the place of nea, yu juste prooved Skit's lah

Should I explain to you what a joke is?

[JGuy Grungeman]

Then the entire basis of your votes is the fact that you don't know the genres and their specifications? What is so difficult for you to accept within the rules?

Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Should I explain to you what a joke is?

I knew you were joking. I think I messed mine up, though. Damn it, Neapussypants! Stop complaining! You're making me lose focus!

[Neapolitan]

Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

@blank In the place of nea, yu juste prooved Skit's Lah.



But you made statements like "John Lee Hooker isn't delta blues." I would've considered the "irony" in your post if you didn't make statements like that. I don't know every delta blues artist, I'll admit. And you specifically stated "It doesn't matter" without first explaining how it seemed ironic to you. You even went as far as to say I didn't know what delta blues sounds like.

But unlike you seemed to be, I was aware that musicians can play more than one music genre. I do know what the sound is, so don't assume I'm being ironic if I decide to use actual music sites to determine which bands are eligible. Plus, you ultimately refused to change your vote even after you had nothing to prove me wrong about.

I really thought that explanation of yours was something that you quickly read over the internet to show me that you know what you were talking about with the Blues. You started the Delta Blues round and wham-mo your an expert.

I didn't change my vote because if you said nothing of Blues players who played in the ragtime style why should I change my vote cause Elizabeth Cotten played in a ragtime style? I would had voted for Blind Blake but I was too afraid someone on RYM would had tagged him as "Delta Blues."

[JGuy Grungeman]

How many times must I reiterate? All I said was that I know the difference between delta blues and some other blues styles. You can be an expert without doing that. You should know I never claimed to be an expert at all except for the joke I made in my introduction thread where I called myself a grunge expert. If I were really some expert on blues , I wouldn't need the internet to back up sources. Instead, I recognize I'm not an expert and I use music-specific websites to determine the eligible bands. Plus, I used the internet in an attempt, mind you it's an attempt, to defend any and all votes. That includes yours. In fact, the fact that Elizabeth Cotten was your vote and the only one that was not accepted is pure coincidence.

[Terrapin_Station]

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

By why fret over it? I mean shouldn't we be voting for people listen or know about. I mean I'm no hip-hop expert that is why I voted for The Fresh Prince cause he's Will Smith in the movies.

Well, ideally I want to vote for the four artists I like the most who also had some influence or importance in the genre. I like tons of artists though, so the bigger the pool I have to choose from, the harder it is for me to settle on just four.

I'm someone who when I'm making, say, a "100 favorite artists" list, it easily balloons into 1,000 instead (and that's no exaggeration), because I keep thinking of folks that I just can't leave off the list.

That's also why I tried to look at "delta blues" fairly narrowly. If I were being looser about who to include, there's no way I could limit it to four without essentially just picking four favorites arbitrarily.

[Neapolitan]

Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

Well, ideally I want to vote for the four artists I like the most who also had some influence or importance in the genre. I like tons of artists though, so the bigger the pool I have to choose from, the harder it is for me to settle on just four.

I'm someone who when I'm making, say, a "100 favorite artists" list, it easily balloons into 1,000 instead (and that's no exaggeration), because I keep thinking of folks that I just can't leave off the list.

That's also why I tried to look at "delta blues" fairly narrowly. If I were being looser about who to include, there's no way I could limit it to four without essentially just picking four favorites arbitrarily.

I always felt go with your gut, go with who know, go with who you really like. I love Piedmont Blues and that is why I voted for Blind Willie McTell and Mississippi John Hurt. I could get technical with all the sub-genre mambo-jumbo stuff but that wouldn't who I am.

I'm not too worry about this dude and his deadlines, and the RYM is the bible of genres stuff. The biggest turn-off to this whole thing is how he disrespects my artist saying they don't count. Well they count in my book. I am very proud that the only nomination so far that made it into the top four was Minor Threat. It only proves my taste is comparatively more underground than other members on this site.

[JGuy Grungeman]

So, what you're saying is your personal opinion not only overrides the rules of the gamer, but offical music websites where the genres are voted on by hundreds of people? You should ALSO know by now I never said RYM was "the bible of genres." What I said was it's more trustworthy than Wikipedia, even if it's can usually get innacurate at times. I'm not letting people vote for "whatever the hell they want" because then our big fours run the risk get very mixed up with artists who don't fit the bill.

Why not just follow the rules? Or rather, if you don't know what delta blues is, why did you even vote in the first place? This isn't "delta blues so vote intentionally for piedmont blues instead." Either way, you would've broken the rule. You really don't have any legitimate reason to complain to me about the mistake you made. m I only use other websites to decide whether they are eligible, and then I let you know if any of the votes aren't. It's like playing a crossword puzzle, messing up because you don't care about the rules, and then tell me your loss is my fault for not making the rules the way you'd see fit.

I mean, are you just freakin' protesting? If that's the case, I might not check your votes at all under the asumption you're trying to break the rules. It's clearly causing problems.

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

if you said nothing of Blues players who played in the ragtime style why should I change my vote cause Elizabeth Cotten played in a ragtime style?

Are you kidding me? I'll say it again: They are also considered to be delta blues online. Do hyou honestly think that it's a law that people can only be one kind of blues? So if he's known for his delta blues, it's completely impossible for him to do a ragtime album? Every other artist voted for was considered delta blues on either Allmusic, Last.fm, RYM, or Discogs EXCEPT for Elizabeth Cotten. YOU AREN'T GETTING THAT. Why don't you man up and admit you broke the rules?

[JGuy Grungeman]

"Big Four Bands Thread Round 7: Golden Age Hip Hop" please.