What makes someone a piano\guitar player?

grindy · 07-07-2016, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1blankmind

It's 1bm. That makes it sound like one bowel movement.

Sorry, dude.
Also: lol.

**Frownland** · 07-07-2016, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1blankmind

I just want to get this straight. You're on a site about music, modding it, and you don't put music on a pedestal?

I do. I ****ing love music, but not to the point where I stop considering musicians musicians.

Blank. · 07-07-2016, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland

I do. I ****ing love music, but not to the point where I stop considering musicians musicians.

Accept you said I lost my credibility when I said I put music on a pedestal. But know you're saying that you do. Ok, everything you say is complete mush.

**Frownland** · 07-07-2016, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Accept you said I lost my credibility when I said I put music on a pedestal.

When it pushes you to the point of closemindedness, yes. Yes, you lose your credibility after that point.

Aloysius · 07-07-2016, 08:13 PM

Getting back to the OP it's important to note that knowing music theory and being able to read standard notation are not the same - many guitarists have a good knowledge of theory in the sense of being able to find chord inversions and substitutions and knowing what notes will sound good over a particular harmony, without being able to read standard notation. In fact guitarists have only been using standard notation since about 1770, before then it was always tablature of some sort.

I do about 60 to 80 gigs a year (on guitar) and probably only 3 or 4 of them would require reading - for example if I'm working with a classical singer who gives me a score or working with music theatre. Frownland is right about western notation having a very specific bias for Western sounding music. Many flamenco forms work very badly in standard notation - a solea for example tends to have accents at the end of it's phrases, when bar lines imply accents at the beginning. a siguiriya has a rhythm cycle of 2 + 2 + 3 + 3 + 2, which ends up as a mess if you try and use time signatures. Indian music fares even worse.

TinySickTears · 07-09-2016, 01:30 PM

well i play guitar so that makes me a guitar player.
seems pretty simple
i mean i dont have a piano hanging on my wall next to my charts.
there is a ukulele though

07-07-2016, 08:13 PM	#35 (permalink)
Aloysius Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 353	Getting back to the OP it's important to note that knowing music theory and being able to read standard notation are not the same - many guitarists have a good knowledge of theory in the sense of being able to find chord inversions and substitutions and knowing what notes will sound good over a particular harmony, without being able to read standard notation. In fact guitarists have only been using standard notation since about 1770, before then it was always tablature of some sort. I do about 60 to 80 gigs a year (on guitar) and probably only 3 or 4 of them would require reading - for example if I'm working with a classical singer who gives me a score or working with music theatre. Frownland is right about western notation having a very specific bias for Western sounding music. Many flamenco forms work very badly in standard notation - a solea for example tends to have accents at the end of it's phrases, when bar lines imply accents at the beginning. a siguiriya has a rhythm cycle of 2 + 2 + 3 + 3 + 2, which ends up as a mess if you try and use time signatures. Indian music fares even worse. Last edited by Aloysius; 07-07-2016 at 08:28 PM.

07-09-2016, 01:30 PM	#36 (permalink)
TinySickTears Groupie Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 31	well i play guitar so that makes me a guitar player. seems pretty simple i mean i dont have a piano hanging on my wall next to my charts. there is a ukulele though