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Old 06-09-2016, 01:57 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I think though he's one of the last voices of signicance in hip hop though.
I don't see that happening tbh. I see the genre propelling itself for quite a long time.
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Old 06-09-2016, 02:02 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I don't see that happening tbh. I see the genre propelling itself for quite a long time.
Agreed.

Also, @OccultHawk, are you a fan of Billy Woods? At times I find Earl's approach similar to his because of the slow delivery, incredible lyricism, and as of late, his beat selection too.
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Old 06-09-2016, 02:03 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Agreed.

Also, @OccultHawk, are you a fan of Billy Woods? At times I find Earl's approach similar to his because of the slow delivery, incredible lyricism, and as of late, his beat selection too.
Billy Woods is GOAT.
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I really don't like Lou Reed a whole lot. So I'm not going to say I'm an expert on the subject. But I was under the impression that album was considered to be his ****tiest album.
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Old 06-09-2016, 02:48 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I really don't like Lou Reed a whole lot. So I'm not going to say I'm an expert on the subject. But I was under the impression that album was considered to be his ****tiest album.
While it was harangued by the public when it was released, it's a landmark album for us experimental music connoisseurs and has a massive legacy that you can find in the noise music realm.
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While it was harangued by the public when it was released, it's a landmark album for us experimental music connoisseurs and has a massive legacy that you can find in the noise music realm.
Well now I really feel like a pretentious douchebag.
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Old 06-09-2016, 03:59 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Agreed.

Also, @OccultHawk, are you a fan of Billy Woods? At times I find Earl's approach similar to his because of the slow delivery, incredible lyricism, and as of late, his beat selection too.
I like Billy Woods.

I'm not saying there won't be any more really good hip hop I'm just saying that I don't think there's going to be any more huge artistic revolutions within the genre.

I think a lot of great jazz happened after Coltrane died but he still had what I consider to be the final word on it's evolution. I also think Lee and Thurston did that with guitar based rock'n'roll.

You would have to be inside my head to know exactly what I mean by that but there it is.

In this sense, I don't view Coltrane as influential. I think he said everything there was left to say. Some critics call free jazz a dead end. I call it the mountaintop.

I do not like Woods as much as Earl. I really feel there's something very special about Earl. However, I will admit that for a long time I was right on top of hip hop as it happened but somewhere along the way I started discovering missed pieces or that for whatever reason it took me longer than it should have to realize how great certain artists are or were.
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I'd say free rock is the next big step in jazz, stuff like Zu, The Thing, Noxagt, and Ultralyd. Going back to right after Coltrane, there was fusion, which was a huge step from post bop and free jazz (for better or worse). You never know when something's going to turn around though, if we could predict innovation it wouldn't be innovative when it happens.
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Well now I really feel like a pretentious douchebag.
Don't worry. Your in good company with me and the lead singer of tool. Lol.
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