Albums that are influential/innovative/good

**Frownland** · 06-09-2016, 10:10 AM

They're definitely psychedelic but I'm not sure if I'd call it 60s psychedelic. I agree on Can though. Which one do you think had more influence? I'm leaning towards silver apples on that one.

OccultHawk · 06-09-2016, 10:27 AM

In my opinion Can by far: Spacemen 3/ Spiritualized, Radiohead, The Fall

This doesn't necessarily make Can a better band but they left much more to build on. That hypnotic long groove thing was open ended and easy to work with. Silver Apples are too entrenched in their time period to grow in the same way. I don't think you agree with that. I think you'll probably agree about Can but think I'm being too dismissive of Silver Apples. So let me clear in my respect for Silver Apples. It's just that a band could be influenced by Can much later and still sound progressive or futuristic. A band heavily influenced by Silver Apples are going to be some kind of neo-psychedelia.

Key · 06-09-2016, 10:29 AM

lol@thisthread

**Frownland** · 06-09-2016, 10:37 AM

Silver Apples influenced Can ergo they're responsible for Can's influences

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OccultHawk · 06-09-2016, 10:40 AM

Haha

That may be a gotcha post but I think that's a fair point - not the end all point but important to consider

I like doing that going back and back

Look at my first post in this thread

Blank. · 06-09-2016, 11:30 AM

This album is fourteen years old but I'm still going to talk about it.

Queens Of The Stone Age - Songs For The Deaf

Its hard to say what music is the most influential, but I've always been told this is the album that made stoner rock a mainstream genre.

**Frownland** · 06-09-2016, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1blankmind

This album is fourteen years old but I'm still going to talk about it.

Queens Of The Stone Age - Songs For The Deaf

Its hard to say what music is the most influential, but I've always been told this is the album that made stoner rock a mainstream genre.

My vote goes to Black Sabbath for that one. There are a lot of bands like COC and Clutch that prefaced them with the more modern stoner rock.

OccultHawk · 06-09-2016, 11:44 AM

Sweet Leaf started and defines the genre. Probably my favorite guitar riff of all-time. Cannot be overstated.

Blank. · 06-09-2016, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Sweet Leaf started and defines the genre. Probably my favorite guitar riff of all-time. Cannot be overstated.

Sweet Leaf is the song all being must listen to the first time they get high. Just saying.

**Frownland** · 06-09-2016, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Sweet Leaf is the song all being must listen to the first time they get high. Just saying.

Mine was this

First time I heard Zappa, too. That xylophone solo melted my skull.

06-09-2016, 10:10 AM	#11 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	They're definitely psychedelic but I'm not sure if I'd call it 60s psychedelic. I agree on Can though. Which one do you think had more influence? I'm leaning towards silver apples on that one. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-09-2016, 10:37 AM	#14 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Silver Apples influenced Can ergo they're responsible for Can's influences . __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-09-2016, 10:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	In my opinion Can by far: Spacemen 3/ Spiritualized, Radiohead, The Fall This doesn't necessarily make Can a better band but they left much more to build on. That hypnotic long groove thing was open ended and easy to work with. Silver Apples are too entrenched in their time period to grow in the same way. I don't think you agree with that. I think you'll probably agree about Can but think I'm being too dismissive of Silver Apples. So let me clear in my respect for Silver Apples. It's just that a band could be influenced by Can much later and still sound progressive or futuristic. A band heavily influenced by Silver Apples are going to be some kind of neo-psychedelia.

06-09-2016, 10:29 AM	#13 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	lol@thisthread

06-09-2016, 10:40 AM	#15 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	Haha That may be a gotcha post but I think that's a fair point - not the end all point but important to consider I like doing that going back and back Look at my first post in this thread

06-09-2016, 11:30 AM	#16 (permalink)
Blank. Jacob Sartorius Join Date: May 2016 Location: Dank memes Posts: 4,033	This album is fourteen years old but I'm still going to talk about it. Queens Of The Stone Age - Songs For The Deaf Its hard to say what music is the most influential, but I've always been told this is the album that made stoner rock a mainstream genre.

06-09-2016, 11:44 AM	#18 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	Sweet Leaf started and defines the genre. Probably my favorite guitar riff of all-time. Cannot be overstated.