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Basil C. Thurston III 01-18-2016 04:18 PM

RIP Glenn Frey, Eagles.
 
Glenn Frey died today, age 67.

2016 is really starting off rough on rock stars...

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 01-18-2016 04:21 PM

Just read this. :(
The Eagles' Glenn Frey dead at 67 - CNN.com

They're dropping like flies it seems. :(

RIP. :(

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 01-18-2016 04:22 PM



F*** man. :(

Janszoon 01-18-2016 04:52 PM

I just read about this. Sad news.

Trollheart 01-18-2016 05:07 PM

For ****'s sake! Not another one!! :mad: :(

Neapolitan 01-18-2016 05:09 PM

I saw an Eagles documentary and while watching it I thought Glenn Frey came off as such a hardass. Maybe it was just usual band politics, but I really didn't care for him. Yeah he sang "Take It Easy," but can't say he did. I felt sorry for those who crossed his path like Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner and Don Felder.

Anyways for all the fans, rest in peace Glenn Frey.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 01-18-2016 05:12 PM

From Don Henley

Don Henley on Glenn Frey : Don Henley
Quote:

“He was like a brother to me; we were family, and like most families, there was some dysfunction. But, the bond we forged 45 years ago was never broken, even during the 14 years that the Eagles were dissolved.

We were two young men who made the pilgrimage to Los Angeles with the same dream: to make our mark in the music industry — and with perseverance, a deep love of music, our alliance with other great musicians and our manager, Irving Azoff, we built something that has lasted longer than anyone could have dreamed. But, Glenn was the one who started it all. He was the spark plug, the man with the plan. He had an encyclopedic knowledge of popular music and a work ethic that wouldn’t quit. He was funny, bullheaded, mercurial, generous, deeply talented and driven. He loved his wife and kids more than anything.

We are all in a state of shock, disbelief and profound sorrow. We brought our two-year “History of the Eagles Tour” to a triumphant close at the end of July and now he is gone. I’m not sure I believe in fate, but I know that crossing paths with Glenn Lewis Frey in 1970 changed my life forever, and it eventually had an impact on the lives of millions of other people all over the planet. It will be very strange going forward in a world without him in it. But, I will be grateful, every day, that he was in my life. Rest in peace, my brother. You did what you set out to do, and then some.”

-Don Henley

Neapolitan 01-18-2016 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea (Post 1671020)
From Don Henley

Don Henley on Glenn Frey : Don Henley
Quote:

“He was like a brother to me; we were family, and like most families, there was some dysfunction. But, the bond we forged 45 years ago was never broken, even during the 14 years that the Eagles were dissolved.

We were two young men who made the pilgrimage to Los Angeles with the same dream: to make our mark in the music industry — and with perseverance, a deep love of music, our alliance with other great musicians and our manager, Irving Azoff, we built something that has lasted longer than anyone could have dreamed. But, Glenn was the one who started it all. He was the spark plug, the man with the plan. He had an encyclopedic knowledge of popular music and a work ethic that wouldn’t quit. He was funny, bullheaded, mercurial, generous, deeply talented and driven. He loved his wife and kids more than anything.

We are all in a state of shock, disbelief and profound sorrow. We brought our two-year “History of the Eagles Tour” to a triumphant close at the end of July and now he is gone. I’m not sure I believe in fate, but I know that crossing paths with Glenn Lewis Frey in 1970 changed my life forever, and it eventually had an impact on the lives of millions of other people all over the planet. It will be very strange going forward in a world without him in it. But, I will be grateful, every day, that he was in my life. Rest in peace, my brother. You did what you set out to do, and then some.”

-Don Henley

Maybe that's a better word to use instead of hardass.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 01-18-2016 05:21 PM

Have been a pretty big Eagles fan ever since I was a kid. This one is hard for me to take. :(

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 01-18-2016 05:29 PM

Just heard this now. Fantastic rendition!!!


Pet_Sounds 01-18-2016 05:32 PM

The Eagles were the third rock band I fell in love with ever. Just switched on the radio, and, of course, "Hotel California" is playing. RIP. :(

SatoshiNak 01-18-2016 05:41 PM

As someone who grew up in the 70s (as many here probably did), it is really bizarre to be watching all of these people who've provided music we've grown-up and lived with now dropping like flies, only to remain in memory and in their music. Rest in peace, Glenn.

Trollheart 01-18-2016 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1671019)
I saw an Eagles documentary and while watching it I thought Glenn Frey came off as such a hardass. Maybe it was just usual band politics, but I really didn't care for him. Yeah he sang "Take It Easy," but can't say he did. I felt sorry for those who crossed his path like Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner and Don Felder.

Anyways for all the fans, rest in peace Glenn Frey.

I must say that's very disrespectful. The guy's hardly cold and you're already finding fault with him. I saw a documentary too, and from what I saw, it was Felder who was the problem, and ended up getting kicked out of the band. Whether or which, I think it's in very poor taste to be making those sort of remarks on the day the man died. How would you like if someone had said that about Bowie here last week? Shame on you.

And your last sentence comes across as very insincere and disingenuous. You need to show some respect for the dead. Terrible thing to say.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 01-18-2016 06:40 PM

Give him credit, he changed his mind.
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1671022)
Maybe that's a better word to use instead of hardass.


Anteater 01-18-2016 07:03 PM

Frey fans will get a kick out of this, as well as my fellow yacht rock fans. :p:


Trollheart 01-18-2016 07:11 PM

I picked up Glenn Frey's solo CD once upon a time, was surprised at a) how much I actually knew on it and b) how much I enjoyed the ones I didn't know. A real creative guy, the heart of the Eagles with Henley, and will be sorely missed. Such a pity, as I feel with Long Road Out of Eden they were just beginning a renaissance that could have taken them back to mainstream success.

The journey of the sorcerer is over, and I guess now Glenn is on the long road into Eden. Rest well, my friend. Your music formed the soundtrack for much of my youth.

Neapolitan 01-18-2016 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea (Post 1671023)
Have been a pretty big Eagles fan ever since I was a kid. This one is hard for me to take. :(

Sorry for your loss.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1671039)
I must say that's very disrespectful. The guy's hardly cold and you're already finding fault with him. I saw a documentary too, and from what I saw, it was Felder who was the problem, and ended up getting kicked out of the band. Whether or which, I think it's in very poor taste to be making those sort of remarks on the day the man died. How would you like if someone had said that about Bowie here last week? Shame on you.

And your last sentence comes across as very insincere and disingenuous. You need to show some respect for the dead. Terrible thing to say.

Even one of his closest friends and band mate called him "bullheaded," and you find fault cause I said 'Yeah he sang "Take It Easy," but can't say he did.' I am an Eagles fan (just like the few Rock fans here are) and I've seen them in concert too. I remember seeing a Rockumentary on the Eagles, which probably aired cause they were touring. While watching the doc and watching the history of the band unfold, and seeing the band dynamic I began to side with the underdogs i.e. Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner and Don Felder. They had their side of the story and he had his. Like I said it's about band politics, he seemed not to take it easy when it came to dealing with other band members. And that's reason I said 'Yeah he sang "Take It Easy," but can't say he did.' I wasn't trying to be mean, disrespectful, insincere or disingenuous.

Maybe he mellowed with age, and seen things differently, idk. Now whether or not Glenn Frey made kept in contact after they were no longer part of the band I don't know, to me that is more important than concert numbers, album sales or how much money is made. I do remember Paul saying in retrospect he would handle things differently with Pete Best. I'm guessing Glenn Frey had the same sentiments.


Eagles - Take It To The Limit (Live at The Capital Centre 1977)

RoxyRollah 01-19-2016 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1671008)
I just read about this. Sad news.

Tell no cabbies.

Trollheart 01-19-2016 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea (Post 1671046)
Give him credit, he changed his mind.

No he didn't. He changed one word, on the basis of what someone else posted. That's not changing your mind.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1671075)



Even one of his closest friends and band mate called him "bullheaded," and you find fault cause I said 'Yeah he sang "Take It Easy," but can't say he did.'

No, I don't. I find THIS disrespectful:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1671019)
I saw an Eagles documentary and while watching it I thought Glenn Frey came off as such a hardass. Maybe it was just usual band politics, but I really didn't care for him. Yeah he sang "Take It Easy," but can't say he did. I felt sorry for those who crossed his path like Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner and Don Felder.

Anyways for all the fans, rest in peace Glenn Frey.

There's no need to say you didn't care for him and then point out the bad things he did in his life. If you didn't like him or had an issue with him, don't bring it up on the day he died in his RIP thread. That's just so crass and in the very worst taste.
Quote:

I am an Eagles fan (just like the few Rock fans here are) and I've seen them in concert too. I remember seeing a Rockumentary on the Eagles, which probably aired cause they were touring. While watching the doc and watching the history of the band unfold, and seeing the band dynamic I began to side with the underdogs i.e. Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner and Don Felder. They had their side of the story and he had his. Like I said it's about band politics, he seemed not to take it easy when it came to dealing with other band members. And that's reason I said 'Yeah he sang "Take It Easy," but can't say he did.' I wasn't trying to be mean, disrespectful, insincere or disingenuous.
Perhaps not, but that's how it came across to me. And why even say it? Like I said, if someone had gone into the Bowie thread, or anyone else who died recently, and made these comments they'd be called out for it. Nobody is a saint, but you don't expect people to dig up grievances with or criticisms with you on the day you pass. I think it was a very ill-advised thing to do. It may have been taken up wrong, but the point is, why say it? It was not necessary.

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1671126)
Tell no cabbies.

Um, what? :confused:

grindy 01-19-2016 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1671130)
Um, what? :confused:

In "The Big Lebowski" The Dude tells a cabbie who has the Eagles playing that he hates the band. The cabbie, who loves them, gets mad and throws The Dude out.

Trollheart 01-19-2016 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1671131)
In "The Big Lebowski" The Dude tells a cabbie who has the Eagles palying that he hates the band. The cabbie, who loves them, gets mad and throws The Dude out.

Oh. Thanks for the explanation. Never saw that movie. :thumb:

grindy 01-19-2016 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1671133)
Oh. Thanks for the explanation. Never saw that movie. :thumb:

Do it asap, or it'll become the new "Office Space". :laughing:

Trollheart 01-19-2016 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1671135)
Do it asap, or it'll become the new "Office Space". :laughing:

Don't hold your breath... :p:

grindy 01-19-2016 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1671138)
Don't hold your breath... :p:

Is it one of those (awesome) things you won't check out on principle?

Trollheart 01-19-2016 08:26 AM

No. Like I told everyone before, there are movies stacked up on my SKY box to be seen, but I'm so busy I seldom get much time to watch TV, and even when I do, I also have seasons of series to watch. So watching a film I amn't waiting to see is just not on the cards at all. Far too much to watch that I actually want to see. That's how it's always been. If someone says "Oh you should see such a film", I'll probably make a note to check it out but the chances of me actually getting to watch it are quite low. I need to WANT to see something before I'll sit down and watch it.

I'm not a casual watcher and I'm not one who goes in for recommendations for movies. My other sister has told me of plenty of good movies she's watched. My response always is yeah but I don't really have time for movies. When you add up the time I write plus the time I use to look after my sis, throw in some meals and there's not too much spare time left really.

grindy 01-19-2016 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1671158)
No. Like I told everyone before, there are movies stacked up on my SKY box to be seen, but I'm so busy I seldom get much time to watch TV, and even when I do, I also have seasons of series to watch. So watching a film I amn't waiting to see is just not on the cards at all. Far too much to watch that I actually want to see. That's how it's always been. If someone says "Oh you should see such a film", I'll probably make a note to check it out but the chances of me actually getting to watch it are quite low. I need to WANT to see something before I'll sit down and watch it.

I'm not a casual watcher and I'm not one who goes in for recommendations for movies. My other sister has told me of plenty of good movies she's watched. My response always is yeah but I don't really have time for movies. When you add up the time I write plus the time I use to look after my sis, throw in some meals and there's not too much spare time left really.

I guess the Office Space debate was before my time or I just missed it, so I wasn't aware of your reasoning. Seems legit. :thumb:

Trollheart 01-19-2016 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1671161)
I guess the Office Space debate was before my time or I just missed it, so I wasn't aware of your reasoning. Seems legit. :thumb:

The Office Space thing was different. When I said no I won't be watching it, people, led by of course Frown and Batty, kept pressuring me. Why? Why won't you watch it? You should watch it? Give me one good reason. Why won't you understand that we know better than you what you would enjoy? Why do you refuse to bow to our wisdom? And so on.

Crap like that does just solidify my resolve not to watch it, giving them the finger and telling them that they had actually achieved the opposite of their intent, and ensured I never would watch it.

And thus, an (incorrect) legend was born. :rolleyes:

I mean, if I was like that, I wouldn't have started "Love or Hate?" now, would I? But some people just like pushing my buttons. Then everyone else got involved, and so OfficeSpaceGate was born. Idiots.

grindy 01-19-2016 08:51 AM

I know that you're pretty open minded in a lot of ways. No debate here.
You know yourself that it probably stopped being about the actual movie pretty fast and became about getting a rise out of you.
But let's not indulge in this topic any further and let sleeping bats lie.

Frownland 01-19-2016 09:18 AM

He sure showed us.

Trollheart 01-19-2016 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1671181)
He sure showed us.

I did.

Floydy 01-19-2016 01:39 PM

One of my favourite bands. What a great songwriter and musician.

Says a bit about the guy though that one prominent journalist was asked for a comment. First thing he said even before praising Frey's attributes was "He was a great businessman". Perhaps a case of the money before the music in The Eagles case?

Neapolitan 01-19-2016 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1671130)
No he didn't. He changed one word, on the basis of what someone else posted. That's not changing your mind.

No, I don't. I find THIS disrespectful:


There's no need to say you didn't care for him and then point out the bad things he did in his life. If you didn't like him or had an issue with him, don't bring it up on the day he died in his RIP thread. That's just so crass and in the very worst taste.

Perhaps not, but that's how it came across to me. And why even say it? Like I said, if someone had gone into the Bowie thread, or anyone else who died recently, and made these comments they'd be called out for it. Nobody is a saint, but you don't expect people to dig up grievances with or criticisms with you on the day you pass. I think it was a very ill-advised thing to do. It may have been taken up wrong, but the point is, why say it? It was not necessary.

Eagles were a band, and in some ways a family. Musicians join a band, they become band mates, band members start seeing their band mates as siblings. So there is some family dynamic to it. And this even extends to fans who begin feel like extended family members. If the band is dysfunctional I guess that spills over to the fans, and fans take sides. And they are assumed into the bands dysfunctional family problems.

Like John Donne said, "No man is an island." When Glenn died it not only affect him, but people around him. What if some people were in situations with him and had issues that went unresolved, assuming they did go unresolved. So what are they going through? How do they resolve this issues without him now that he's passed on? And even if there some sort of an apology from Glenn, how do they feel now? Do they have good memories mixed with bad? I imagine it's not only tough for his band mate and friend Don Henley, but the others as well. So I express my sympathy and said I felt sorry for them, because how they must feel now.

I never heard a bad word about the Eagles, but I heard plenty criticism of Bowie even from day one when I first heard him. I admit I've been conditioned to expect criticism of David Bowie. I would not be surprised if I found criticism in Bowie's RIP thread so I would most likely not call them out on it. I thought if I express anything or bring up any personal feeling about Bowie I would only open myself up for an ad hominem attack, even if what I said was positive. I really didn't go through the Bowie thread because of that.

Basil C. Thurston III 01-19-2016 03:16 PM

If you've never heard a bad word about the Eagles, then the rock you have been living under provides airtight conditions, lol...

Trollheart 01-19-2016 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1671386)
I never heard a bad word about the Eagles, but I heard plenty criticism of Bowie even from day one when I first heard him. I admit I've been conditioned to expect criticism of David Bowie. I would not be surprised if I found criticism in Bowie's RIP thread so I would most likely not call them out on it. I thought if I express anything or bring up any personal feeling about Bowie I would only open myself up for an ad hominem attack, even if what I said was positive. I really didn't go through the Bowie thread because of that.

Actually, none of that refers to what I was saying. I didn't say there weren't problems with the Eagles. I'm not that naive. I just said it was in poor taste to bring them up on the very day he died. And I still stand by that.

As it goes, you can walk from the OP in the Bowie thread to the last post, and there is not one person --- not one --- who has anything in the slightest way negative to say about him. Even those who don't know his music acknowledge what a legend he was. 100% positive.

Neapolitan 01-19-2016 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basil C. Thurston III (Post 1671390)
If you've never heard a bad word about the Eagles, then the rock you have been living under provides airtight conditions, lol...

Nope, I honestly can say I have not heard a bad word about the band, Eagles, as a whole or the music from friends, and people I know irl. I have seen some less than positive statements about band members online, but again not about the band as a whole or the music. And I am excluding conspiracy theorists who go on about Hotel California, since I can't recall them saying the song wasn't any good. They were not critiquing the song musically, and evaluating the song as good or bad. They were just using the lyrics as a basis for their conspiracy theories.

Elvis, The Beatles, the Stones, Led Zeppelin, Billy Joel, David Bowie, Rush, Stevie Ray Vaughn, U2 etc etc I've heard or read criticism about them, on the boards or elsewhere.

Oh yeah ELP. I seen them slammed to death -- I almost forgot about that. But can't recall a bad word about Eagles.

Frownland 01-19-2016 04:11 PM


FRED HALE SR. 01-19-2016 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1671433)

I was waiting for this an entire day. LOL My Dad loves the ****ing Eagles and I had to listen to that **** for far too long, but I certainly respect them as musicians. Always been a Creedence man myself.

Frownland 01-19-2016 04:18 PM

I was going to let it slide until I saw Neapol's comments.

Neapolitan 01-19-2016 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1671433)

How dare you. I can't wait till Trollheart see that. I hate to be you when it happens.

Still doesn't count, it was said out of irony to make people laugh cause everyone love the Eagles.

Seinfeld8 7TheChecksDesperadoGuy

Frownland 01-19-2016 04:23 PM

Or you could take what happens later in that scene as a joke about how defensive Eagles fans are about people not liking them.


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