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HellCell 12-11-2015 10:54 PM

Music that is allowed to be played in public vs not.
 
By public, it could mean a variety of contexts. Shops, work, schools, down the street, etc.
In my case at work, the policy is quite lame. The only music allowed is radio friendly stuff like classic rock, censored pop, or country.
At school, basically pop was played all the time because that's what everyone liked. For those of you who had music playing in the hall anyways.
Retail stores are more or less the same with the pop.

The only time I get to listen to the music I want to listen to is in private or at concerts. Sigh*, where I can live where the music isn't so basic.

Zhanteimi 12-11-2015 11:37 PM

Here in Japan, because they don't understand English, I'll go into a shop run by a little old lady who's got "yo yo bitch mutha****a Imma shove mah dick in yo juicy pussy and gets mah bling n **** niggaz!!!" crap playing.

The Batlord 12-11-2015 11:43 PM

Well, when you're at work it's understandable, at least when you work in a place where there are customers. If someone walks into a Pizza Hut and hears Cannibal Corpse then I imagine it might hurt profits.

Horror 12-12-2015 12:45 AM

Rebecca Black is offense on Black Friday. Hell on every day. Damn her last name and damn that song.

Jokes aside I hear plenty of people blaring pop that pussy this and bitch get my money this from their cars and doorsteps on a daily basis. Some people just don't care. Is it offensive? Not to me as an adult but, it annoys me because, there's these thing called kids. They exists. Have some respect ffs. Then again I used to blare Kittie and Slipknot stuff like that from my house as a teenager. I guess never outside though.

The Batlord 12-12-2015 01:00 AM

I hate the notion of tailoring music for children. The world exists for all humans (though as a nihilist I only accept that on a subjective, cultural level) and it annoys the hell out of me that society considers kids more important than everyone else. Whether it be trashy art (mainstream pop) or otherwise, the art itself should take precedence over the perceived audience. Even if it's targeted at kids I really don't care. If a kid is dumb enough to do drugs or have unprotected sex or murder cops because of a song, then A.) the kid deserves to be useless, and B.) society deserves to have useless kids.

But is "Friday" really that bad? It's just a song about a day of the week. I don't know that much about the lyrics, but as far as I'm aware it's just a bunch of silly, inoffensive lines haphazardly strung together. And it's also moderately fun, so **** it.

Horror 12-12-2015 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1659650)
I hate the notion of tailoring music for children. The world exists for all humans (though as a nihilist I only accept that on a subjective, cultural level) and it annoys the hell out of me that society considers kids more important than everyone else. Whether it be trashy art (mainstream pop) or otherwise, the art itself should take precedence over the perceived audience. Even if it's targeted at kids I really don't care. If a kid is dumb enough to do drugs or have unprotected sex or murder cops because of a song, then A.) the kid deserves to be useless, and B.) society deserves to have useless kids.

But is "Friday" really that bad? It's just a song about a day of the week. I don't know that much about the lyrics, but as far as I'm aware it's just a bunch of silly, inoffensive lines haphazardly strung together. And it's also moderately fun, so **** it.

Oh if a kid is influenced by anything that's their own fault really I mean have your own brain I just mean there's a level of respect. It's not even because, they're easily influenced. It's just like care about someone other than yourself.
That's how I feel about it. I don't even really like children. Cats, sure. I have two.

The Batlord 12-12-2015 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Horror (Post 1659654)
Oh if a kid is influenced by anything that's their own fault really I mean have your own brain I just mean there's a level of respect. It's not even because, they're easily influenced. It's just like care about someone other than yourself.
That's how I feel about it. I don't even really like children. Cats, sure. I have two.

We seem to agree on the subject, except that I have an anti-social amusement at the thought of corrupting children. Moderately of course. I just fantasize about teaching my potential children about barking spiders and hiding under their beds to scare them when they're trying to sleep. I'd rather die than have children, though, so that's just academic.

Horror 12-12-2015 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1659657)
We seem to agree on the subject, except that I have an anti-social amusement at the thought of corrupting children. Moderately of course. I just fantasize about teaching my potential children about barking spiders and hiding under their beds to scare them when they're trying to sleep. I'd rather die than have children, though, so that's just academic.

As far as I can tell being a parent is a lot more complex than just what's right and what's wrong and doing things like that aren't bad at all.

Anyway, I can't really think of anything else to say about the topic because, there is so many obvious answers. Work is a place where there's certain rules to follow to please the customer. Well, I guess if you're a stripper though or a drug dealer it doesn't really matter. Though that makes me think about how easy rap songs are to construct.

I could literally write a song like. Slap them cakes girl get that money slap them cakes girl twerk it honey buns. Slap them cakes girl kneed that dough. Slap them cakes Debbie who's a hoooooo hoooooo!

1# hit.

The Batlord 12-12-2015 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Horror (Post 1659659)
As far as I can tell being a parent is a lot more complex than just what's right and what's wrong and doing things like that aren't bad at all.

Anyway, I can't really think of anything else to say about the topic because, there is so many obvious answers. Work is a place where there's certain rules to follow to please the customer. Well, I guess if you're a stripper though or a drug dealer it doesn't really matter. Though that makes me think about how easy rap songs are to construct.

I could literally write a song like. Slap them cakes girl get that money slap them cakes girl twerk it honey buns. Slap them cakes girl kneed that dough. Slap them cakes Debbie who's a hoooooo hoooooo!

1# hit.

If it were that easy to write a #1 hit then everyone would do it. It's easy on paper, but the music and the lyrics are surprisingly difficult to nail down. Hence why Ke$ha sticks with her formula. If she ever changed then I can guarantee you that she would meet the same fate as Lady GaGa. Radio success is as much luck as it is talent, especially when you're writing your own songs (like mo'****ing Ke$ha, so respect the bitch).

And your first point is one big reason I don't want children. As much as I just don't want to do it I have too much first hand experience with how to fail at it to have the hubris to try, and am too much of a cluster-**** of a human being to ever consider inflicting myself upon a child.

Horror 12-12-2015 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1659662)
If it were that easy to write a #1 hit then everyone would do it. It's easy on paper, but the music and the lyrics are surprisingly difficult to nail down. Hence why Ke$ha sticks with her formula. If she ever changed then I can guarantee you that she would meet the same fate as Lady GaGa. Radio success is as much luck as it is talent, especially when you're writing your own songs (like mo'****ing Ke$ha, so respect the bitch).

And your first point is one big reason I don't want children. As much as I just don't want to do it I have too much first hand experience with how to fail at it to have the hubris to try, and am too much of a cluster-**** of a human being to ever consider inflicting myself upon a child.

I'm a horrible person I would be horrible to a child so I feel you there.

Never said I didn't respect Kesha just said I think she has more. And that's pop. I could put what I just wrote on top of some random beat or better yet a beat that already exists and people would eat it up. Lady Gaga is still kind of super famous with a huge following despite the fact she's all over the place with music. "Artistic". I like some of her songs. She's nothing amazing though. They're just enjoyable pop songs. The reason she is so disgustingly famous and rich though is her following. Kesha has one too.

Lol we're way off topic though.

The Batlord 12-12-2015 02:30 AM

GaGa is famous because she had one album of simple-but-brilliant pop songs about being a party girl. Pretty much everything else was an obnoxious hype machine of Facebook trends and meat dresses. She's pretty much been riding on the coat tails of The Fame ever since, and the diminishing returns ever since is a testament to how little people care about her "social" stances.

Ke$ha on the other hand, though her star has fallen due to the whole thing about "Die Young" being released around the same time as a school shooting, has actually released continually better albums. Cannibal (though an EP) was better than Animal, and Warrior is simply one of the best pop albums of the decade. Sure they all conform to the Ke$ha template, but just listen to Warrior as a collection of pop songs rather than an expression of an artist's... whatever, and god damn is it awesome. It's ridiculous how little filler there is in comparison to just about any other mainstream pop artist.

She definitely needs to quit suing her record label and release another album, though. I understand there's a rape charge with her manager, but she's shooting her career in the foot by taking it out on her label.

Janszoon 12-12-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HellCell (Post 1659606)
By public, it could mean a variety of contexts. Shops, work, schools, down the street, etc.
In my case at work, the policy is quite lame. The only music allowed is radio friendly stuff like classic rock, censored pop, or country.
At school, basically pop was played all the time because that's what everyone liked. For those of you who had music playing in the hall anyways.
Retail stores are more or less the same with the pop.

The only time I get to listen to the music I want to listen to is in private or at concerts. Sigh*, where I can live where the music isn't so basic.

This is a non-issue for me. I listen to whatever I want on my headphones at work, on my headphones when I'm shopping, on my headphones when I go out for a walk. I think the only circumstance I regularly hear other music is when I go to the gym, which I'll grant you is pretty annoying since it's usually loud enough that I can hear it over my headphones. It also happens when I'm out at a bar or something, but then it doesn't bother me because I'm just so excited that they're actually playing music instead of blasting sporting events on TVs.

The Batlord 12-12-2015 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1659724)
This is a non-issue for me. I listen to whatever I want on my headphones at work, on my headphones when I'm shopping, on my headphones when I go out for a walk. I think the only circumstance I regularly hear other music is when I go to the gym, which I'll grant you is pretty annoying since it's usually loud enough that I can hear it over my headphones. It also happens when I'm out at a bar or something, but then it doesn't bother me because I'm just so excited that they're actually playing music instead of blasting sporting events on TVs.

Anybody over the age of 25 who listens to headphones in public as much as you apparently do is clearly an anti-social weirdo.

grindy 12-12-2015 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1659724)
This is a non-issue for me. I listen to whatever I want on my headphones at work, on my headphones when I'm shopping, on my headphones when I go out for a walk. I think the only circumstance I regularly hear other music is when I go to the gym, which I'll grant you is pretty annoying since it's usually loud enough that I can hear it over my headphones. It also happens when I'm out at a bar or something, but then it doesn't bother me because I'm just so excited that they're actually playing music instead of blasting sporting events on TVs.

Why don't you listen to your music in the gym?

Janszoon 12-12-2015 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1659727)
Why don't you listen to your music in the gym?

I do, but like I said, the music they pump at the gym is...

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1659724)
...usually loud enough that I can hear it over my headphones.


Trollheart 12-12-2015 12:01 PM


grindy 12-12-2015 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1659736)
I do, but like I said, the music they pump at the gym is...

:laughing:

I shouldn't try reading stuff while groggy from my evening nap.

Basil C. Thurston III 12-20-2015 01:25 AM

Many, many decades ago, while in 6th grade, our homeroom teacher would set up a small turntable each Friday morning, and we were allowed to bring in our favorite 45 records and play them until 1st bell. So, as always happens, someone has to pee in the punch bowl, and ruin it for all. One kid brought in Benny Bell's "Shaving Cream", which was popular on the Dr Demento show at the time. (If you've not heard the song, it's available on Youtube). As the song started, the teacher noted the old-timey style and appeared surprised but as it got to the chorus,with it's exaggerated "SHHHH.....aving cream", she jumped out of the chair and knocked the tonearm off the record, sternly telling us that was nasty and unacceptable. And that was the last day we got to play records...and I think of that each time I hear or read about how awful rap music is, and how the standards have changed so much over time....whether that's a fair comparison or not, I don't know....but what I do know is that if you were driving and pulled up next to someone cranking "Shaving Cream", you couldn't possibly be offended today, could you?

Janszoon 12-20-2015 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Basil C. Thurston III (Post 1662215)
Many, many decades ago, while in 6th grade, our homeroom teacher would set up a small turntable each Friday morning, and we were allowed to bring in our favorite 45 records and play them until 1st bell. So, as always happens, someone has to pee in the punch bowl, and ruin it for all. One kid brought in Benny Bell's "Shaving Cream", which was popular on the Dr Demento show at the time. (If you've not heard the song, it's available on Youtube). As the song started, the teacher noted the old-timey style and appeared surprised but as it got to the chorus,with it's exaggerated "SHHHH.....aving cream", she jumped out of the chair and knocked the tonearm off the record, sternly telling us that was nasty and unacceptable. And that was the last day we got to play records...and I think of that each time I hear or read about how awful rap music is, and how the standards have changed so much over time....whether that's a fair comparison or not, I don't know....but what I do know is that if you were driving and pulled up next to someone cranking "Shaving Cream", you couldn't possibly be offended today, could you?

When I was in elementary school we had an assembly with some guy who sang funny kids' songs and that was one of the songs he sang. No one was offended.

Machine 12-20-2015 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1659724)
This is a non-issue for me. I listen to whatever I want on my headphones at work, on my headphones when I'm shopping, on my headphones when I go out for a walk. I think the only circumstance I regularly hear other music is when I go to the gym, which I'll grant you is pretty annoying since it's usually loud enough that I can hear it over my headphones. It also happens when I'm out at a bar or something, but then it doesn't bother me because I'm just so excited that they're actually playing music instead of blasting sporting events on TVs.

I'm with Jans here, unless I'm by myself at home I always have my headphones on listening to whatever the hell I so please. I could be listening to Justin Beiber or I could be listening to Merzbow and no one would be any the wiser.

Black Francis 12-20-2015 01:17 PM

Here in Puerto Rico the only music you can publicly play out loud without any complains are Salsa & Reggaeton. Reggae and Ska are also somewhat acceptable but Metal or any Hard rock are frowned upon.

Tristan_Geoff 12-20-2015 06:57 PM

What about ska punk? Just eyebrow raises or major complaints?

Of course, it could depend on the balance of ska and punk too. I could definitely see why Leftover Crack would be objected to.

The Batlord 12-20-2015 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1662525)
What about ska punk? Just eyebrow raises or major complaints?

Of course, it could depend on the balance of ska and punk too. I could definitely see why Leftover Crack would be objected to.

My experience with acceptable ska punk is largely limited to Operation Ivy, who are most certainly acceptable.

Black Francis 12-20-2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1662525)
What about ska punk? Just eyebrow raises or major complaints?

that's accepted too.

There's a small musical scene here where all variations of Ska/punk/reggae are fairly popular but that kinda music is only known and accepted in those circles, the music you hear blasting outta the cars or in houses is always Reggaeton or Salsa unless they are dominican.. they play Bachata.

Tristan_Geoff 12-20-2015 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1662542)
My experience with acceptable ska punk is largely limited to Operation Ivy, who are most certainly acceptable.

You haven't experienced Crack Rock Steady? Man... you seriously need to get on that. Spin Mediocre Generica ASAP.

Tristan_Geoff 12-20-2015 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1662577)
that's accepted too.

There's a small musical scene here where all variations of Ska/punk/reggae are fairly popular but that kinda music is only known and accepted in those circles, the music you hear blasting outta the cars or in houses is always Reggaeton or Salsa unless they are dominican.. they play Bachata.

Bachata. I've heard some of that. Honestly, I don't know what my opinion of it is though, and I certainly haven't been exposed here in the states as you probably are on a daily basis.

Hey though, if guys down there accept ska, it can't be all bad.

The Batlord 12-20-2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1662582)
You haven't experienced Crack Rock Steady? Man... you seriously need to get on that. Spin Mediocre Generica ASAP.

I'm lazy about punk in general, since so much of it sounds the same. And I'm not that big a fan of pure hardcore, so when I want punk I either go to the Sex Pistols or Dead Kennedys, or go all the way to metalcore.

Tristan_Geoff 12-20-2015 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1662589)
I'm lazy about punk in general, since so much of it sounds the same. And I'm not that big a fan of pure hardcore, so when I want punk I either go to the Sex Pistols or Dead Kennedys, or go all the way to metalcore.

Yeah but this is crust-ska. At least one lf the tracks even has a strong black metal presence.

The Batlord 12-20-2015 07:46 PM

Will give it a try whenever the hell I feel like it, and I'm lazy.

Frownland 12-20-2015 08:01 PM

^I could see you being a really big crust punk fan tbh. Not too familiar with crust ska, though.

The Batlord 12-20-2015 08:17 PM

I appreciate some of the crust I've heard. I definitely dig the early black metal that derives from crust, and some early grind, but 80s hardcore is still severely hit-or-miss with me. I generally like my crust, just like my normal hardcore, with a heavy dose of metal riffs.

Punk riffs that aren't based in sixties pop/R&B are generally boring to me.

Frownland 12-20-2015 08:23 PM

In any case, check out Hellbastard if you haven't already.

Tristan_Geoff 12-20-2015 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1662617)
^I could see you being a really big crust punk fan tbh. Not too familiar with crust ska, though.

Choking Victim? Leftover Crack? Morning Glory?

It's basically a little sector of New York groups with Stza at the center of it all.

The Batlord 12-20-2015 08:47 PM

I seem to remember enjoying Leftover Crack, but can't remember what they actually sound like.

Tristan_Geoff 12-21-2015 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1662632)
I seem to remember enjoying Leftover Crack, but can't remember what they actually sound like.

Best get on with Mediocre Generica then.

Basil C. Thurston III 12-21-2015 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1662250)
When I was in elementary school we had an assembly with some guy who sang funny kids' songs and that was one of the songs he sang. No one was offended.

Fantastic! What other songs did he play?


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