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Old 12-07-2015, 09:19 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Indeed. And I didn't even say TPAB was a bad record. Hell, I think it's very good. It hit a huge chord with a lot of people who probably wouldn't listen to anything remotely jazz-inflected at gunpoint under normal circumstances. But people said the same "album of the century" stuff a few years back when Kanye West came out with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, which was also pretty adventurous musically for a hip-hop record. Are those same people still saying that now though? That's why I find it difficult to take a list seriously that just catapults it to the top: it would be the same thing if the Internet existed back in '82 and all the major online publications saying Michael Jackson's Thriller was the most amazing record of that year. It's good....but is it worth drowning out everything else?

I guess time will tell if we're just looking at a case of hype machine gone rampant or not.
A lot of my friends talk a lot about the album's importance for the social issues that it discusses, but I find it to be retreading a lot of done issues tbh. That doesn't invalidate it at all and I think he did it well (I quite enjoyed the album, tbh, it'd probably make top 25ish for me), but it's not the groundbreaker that it's made out to be. I also highly agree on MBDTF being the definition of an overhyped record. Yeezus was more deserving of it in my eyes because I liked that album a lot better, but I think that was also given the unnecessary label of innovation.

Back on the general topic, Mondo's new album is actually really ****ing good. He's not just overselling it like I always do, he's got a good reason for it.

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Old 12-07-2015, 09:21 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Yet another load of **** garbage ass arrogant post, if someone's favorite album from 1982 is Thriller that does not invalidate their opinion in any way shape or form. You are my least favorite kind of music fan and I'm pretty disgusted with the elitist nonsense you're spewing
Maybe you should brush up on your reading comprehension before you start making assumptions about other people. I didn't say anything arrogant or judge people's taste. I said I wouldn't take a list seriously that just throws it at #1 for arbitrary reasons. I never said that invalidates the person making the list too. Your taking things way too personally.
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Yet another load of **** garbage ass arrogant post, if someone's favorite album from 1982 is Thriller that does not invalidate their opinion in any way shape or form. You are my least favorite kind of music fan and I'm pretty disgusted with the elitist nonsense you're spewing
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Old 12-07-2015, 09:24 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Maybe you should brush up on your reading comprehension before you start making assumptions about other people. I didn't say anything arrogant or judge people's taste. I said I wouldn't take a list seriously that just throws it at #1 for arbitrary reasons. I never said that invalidates the person making the list too. Your taking things way too personally.
Maybe you should brush up on your reading comprehension of your own damn posts considering "for arbitrary reasons" was never stated by you and the fact that you're trying to add that in now is pathetic. The exact quote from a couple pages ago is:

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That's it. If someone's favorite album of 2015 is TPAB you instantly disregard their opinion. That is the literal, objective translation of what you said. My reading comprehension is working just fine buddy
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What insults? Calling the dude for what he is aka elitist and arrogant? Or calling him my least favorite kind of music fan? Is that offensive to you?
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A lot of my friends talk a lot about the album's importance for the social issues that it discusses, but I find it to be retreading a lot of done issues tbh. That doesn't invalidate it at all and I think he did it well (I quite enjoyed the album, tbh, it'd probably make top 25ish for me), but it's not the groundbreaker that it's made out to be. I also highly agree on MBDTF being the definition of an overhyped record. Yeezus was more deserving of it in my eyes because I liked that album a lot better, but I think that was also given the unnecessary label of innovation.

Back on the general topic, Mondo's new album is actually really ****ing good. He's not just overselling it like I always do, he's got a good reason for it.

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Agreed with every point. And for what its worth, I actually had TPAB at #45 this year, but I just didn't think it was possible for me to break down everything I liked this year in just one short month unless I kept it to around 30 albums or so. I thought it was below my top 100 at first until I re-checked the list I wrote up a few weeks back lol....

Was unaware that Mondo had something new out. Thanks for the link.
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What insults? Calling the dude for what he is aka elitist and arrogant? Or calling him my least favorite kind of music fan? Is that offensive to you?
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I apologize if I come off as ignorant or if I am not getting some inside joke. But I fail to see how Anteater, who has gifted me with quite a few new albums to listen to (Toto XIV is actually really good), has had an elitist attitude for not thinking TPAB is the album of the year. It seems to be that Anteater found many other records to simply be better based on what he/she (I do not know, sorry) enjoyed. I get where some are coming from when they talk about going against what the general public is thinking, but it doesn't show any elitism. It just shows a difference in a opinion.
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I apologize if I come off as ignorant or if I am not getting some inside joke. But I fail to see how Anteater, who has gifted me with quite a few new albums to listen to (Toto XIV is actually really good), has had an elitist attitude for not thinking TPAB is the album of the year. It seems to be that Anteater found many other records to simply be better based on what he/she (I do not know, sorry) enjoyed. I get where some are coming from when they talk about going against what the general public is thinking, but it doesn't show any elitism. It just shows a difference in a opinion.
Did you miss the part where he said he'd disregard any list made by any member that puts TPAB at #1?
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Maybe you should brush up on your reading comprehension of your own damn posts considering "for arbitrary reasons" was never stated by you and the fact that you're trying to add that in now is pathetic. The exact quote from a couple pages ago is:



That's it. If someone's favorite album of 2015 is TPAB you instantly disregard their opinion. That is the literal, objective translation of what you said. My reading comprehension is working just fine buddy
If you can't infer that I would mean it in an arbitrary sense, then you haven't seen my posts enough to know any better. I liked TPAB. I even get the appeal. But if I see a list that looks completely identical to some editor at NPR or Pitchfork, I'm going to wonder if it's a list of albums the person actually listened to and enjoyed or if they were just copying and pasting because they want acceptance. I'm very direct, but I never cut down people like what you happen to be doing here. Do you want me to apologize to you or something? Cause that ain't happenin'.
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