The Torture Chamber

Trollheart · 11-18-2015, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

It's not so much about proof, it just makes the thread more fun and engaging. It also doesn't have to be a whole review, just a few lines and thoughts and hopefully amusing quips about the album.

Yeah, exactly. I've been saying that but Heckle and Jeckle don't seem to get it, or want to.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

It's already dying regardless of your "reminders", and the people who do post largely do so cause they feel like it, not because you badgered them.

Incorrect. Plainview is working on his review and Goofle has three to do. My own next one is due in a few days. I don't expect it to be top of the list every day, but it's motoring along nicely. At the moment, it's surviving on this argument, but once people start posting albums again it'll pick up.

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

Is it fun for people who don't like to write reviews, especially if they're required to, though?

What if we just let people write reviews if they like writing reviews, and not worry about it otherwise?

And what would be your alternative, do tell me? How would that work?

Terrapin_Station · 11-18-2015, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

And what would be your alternative, do tell me? How would that work?

??? In what you quoted, I just said, "What if we just let people write reviews if they like writing reviews, and not worry about it otherwise?" That would be an alternative.

Trollheart · 11-18-2015, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

??? At least as stated, that makes no sense to me. I always listen without preconceptions. I try to do the same for most things. For me, I don't like writing reviews unless I've listened to something at least, say, four or five times over a week or two. Even if I've known an album for a long time, I wouldn't be comfortable writing a review without listening to it a couple times over 2-3 days right before I write the review. Doing that regularly online, which I've done in the past with both music and films, it winds up feeling like a chore, like a job I'm not being paid for, rather than something enjoyable.

I don't understand why that makes no sense to you. I'll break it down.

Frownland (I think) recced MMM to me. Now, under my system, I listen to it, realise I like it, write about it. In your proposed system, I DON'T listen to it (or pretend I have) and say I hate it. In your system, since I've never actually listened to it, just said I did, I never find out how great the album is, much to my surprise. So listening to the album makes more sense than not doing so.

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

??? In what you quoted, I just said, "What if we just let people write reviews if they like writing reviews, and not worry about it otherwise?" That would be an alternative.

And what would be the point of that? What would they have to say? Why would they even want to take part if they're not going to give their opinion, say what they thought of it?

Like I said, and you seem stuck on this, you don't have to do a full review. A few lines is all that's required. If you don't want to do that, then I don't know what to tell you, because the alternative makes no sense at all to me.

grindy · 11-18-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I don't understand why that makes no sense to you. I'll break it down.

Frownland (I think) recced MMM to me. Now, under my system, I listen to it, realise I like it, write about it. In your proposed system, I DON'T listen to it (or pretend I have) and say I hate it. In your system, since I've never actually listened to it, just said I did, I never find out how great the album is, much to my surprise. So listening to the album makes more sense than not doing so.

And what would be the point of that? What would they have to say? Why would they even want to take part if they're not going to give their opinion, say what they thought of it?

Like I said, and you seem stuck on this, you don't have to do a full review. A few lines is all that's required. If you don't want to do that, then I don't know what to tell you, because the alternative makes no sense at all to me.

I don't think he actually talked about not listening to stuff.

Internet arguments are weird.

The Batlord · 11-18-2015, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

I don't think he actually talked about not listening to stuff.

Internet arguments are weird.

Not conforming to TH's fascist NWO = doing nothing.

Trollheart · 11-18-2015, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

I don't think he actually talked about not listening to stuff.

Internet arguments are weird.

No, in fairness he didn't, but if you're going to listen to an album and not write about it, what is the point, within the context of this thread? Why bother, other than just to listen to the album? Do you want to hear someone say of your rec "I liked it" or "I hated it" or would you prefer them to expand on that a little?

Terrapin, tell me how it would work if you were doing this? Someone recs you let's say a Marillion album. What happens next? Shut up Batty...

I'm not being obtuse here, I'm actually actively trying to understand what you would do differently, because I honestly can't see it. If Batty and Frown say let people listen to albums and review them whenever they want, I don't agree but I understand their proposal. Yours, I am at sea about. So what would you actually do, if not review, speak about, write about, give an opinion about, that album?

Terrapin_Station · 11-18-2015, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Do you want to hear someone say of your rec "I liked it" or "I hated it" or would you prefer them to expand on that a little?

I'd prefer that people say as little or as much as they would like to say.

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Someone recs you let's say a Marillion album. What happens next?

They tell you whether they liked it or not, or at least assign some 0-100 score per whether they listened all the way through without "suffering," and they're as verbose or laconic as they'd like to be, with folks being cool with different people approaching that differently.

Terrapin_Station · 11-18-2015, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

In your proposed system, I DON'T listen to it (or pretend I have) and say I hate it. In your system, since I've never actually listened to it, just said I did,

Where did I propose that you don't listen to the album or pretend you do?

And I did make a couple comments about the Freiheit album, by the way.