The Torture Chamber

Terrapin_Station · 12-10-2015, 10:04 AM

I'm pretty sure I heard that one a long time ago, although I didn't recall much about it. But I'm familiar with Schoof, as he's worked with both Albert Mangelsdorff and Mal Waldron, and I'm a big fan of both. Plus, Derek Bailey is on this album, and I actually worked with Bailey briefly at one point--playing that sort of music isn't my usual bag, but Elliott Sharp is a friend of a very good friend of mine, a drummer was needed in a pinch, and I wound up doing a few gigs with Bailey via Sharp.

Anyway, I liked that quite a bit. It only has the most abstract relation to traditional songcraft, of course, but there's way too much technical skill involved, and there's far too much interesting textural variation for it to not appeal to me at all. 0% torture on that one--I downloaded it and put it in my library instead.

The solos (or apparently duets in some cases based on what I just read about it) are particularly excellent and intense, especially the piano and drum/percussion solos. The piano solo reminded me a lot of Cecil Taylor, who I'm also a fan of. The drum/percussion solo is very prescient of later rock solos.

grindy · 12-10-2015, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

I'm pretty sure I heard that one a long time ago, although I didn't recall much about it. But I'm familiar with Schoof, as he's worked with both Albert Mangelsdorff and Mal Waldron, and I'm a big fan of both. Plus, Derek Bailey is on this album, and I actually worked with Bailey briefly at one point--playing that sort of music isn't my usual bag, but Elliott Sharp is a friend of a very good friend of mine, a drummer was needed in a pinch, and I wound up doing a few gigs with Bailey via Sharp.

Anyway, I liked that quite a bit. It only has the most abstract relation to traditional songcraft, of course, but there's way too much technical skill involved, and there's far too much interesting textural variation for it to not appeal to me at all. 0% torture on that one--I downloaded it and put it in my library instead.

The solos (or apparently duets in some cases based on what I just read about it) are particularly excellent and intense, especially the piano and drum/percussion solos. The piano solo reminded me a lot of Cecil Taylor, who I'm also a fan of. The drum/percussion solo is very prescient of later rock solos.

How cool is that! I'm a big fan of Derek Bailey and Elliott Sharp.
Tell us more!

**Frownland** · 12-10-2015, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

I'm pretty sure I heard that one a long time ago, although I didn't recall much about it. But I'm familiar with Schoof, as he's worked with both Albert Mangelsdorff and Mal Waldron, and I'm a big fan of both. Plus, Derek Bailey is on this album, and I actually worked with Bailey briefly at one point--playing that sort of music isn't my usual bag, but Elliott Sharp is a friend of a very good friend of mine, a drummer was needed in a pinch, and I wound up doing a few gigs with Bailey via Sharp.

Anyway, I liked that quite a bit. It only has the most abstract relation to traditional songcraft, of course, but there's way too much technical skill involved, and there's far too much interesting textural variation for it to not appeal to me at all. 0% torture on that one--I downloaded it and put it in my library instead.

The solos (or apparently duets in some cases based on what I just read about it) are particularly excellent and intense, especially the piano and drum/percussion solos. The piano solo reminded me a lot of Cecil Taylor, who I'm also a fan of. The drum/percussion solo is very prescient of later rock solos.

Wow, very cool! I wasn't sure how you'd receive it, kinda just through what I was listening to at you to see what would happen. I'm glad you enjoyed it as much as I do.

The Batlord · 12-10-2015, 11:17 AM

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I'm still pretty proud of myself that I made it all the way through Merzbow. And no, I wasn't out in the garden in a concrete bunker, shaking and crying like a girl. I was in my bedroom, shaking and crying like a girl. So there.

Re Arkangel: it's up next on my listening list Batty.

You'll love it.

Horror · 12-10-2015, 11:31 AM

ArkAngel - Dead Man Walking

Oh you're going to be surprised probably but, I actually kinda like this.

From Heaven We Fall - A nice heavy track. I do wish the guitar was a little
more imaginative but, this totally reminds me of local shows. It's good.
Could be better but, I can almost bet this is one of their early albums.
Something about crucify, sacrifice. I can see this is something about Lucifer
? Oh, the part where he's speaking confirms that. Really fantastic track.

Written In Black - This one's a little heavier. It's ok but, the vocals are
not as good as the first song for sure. I do like the chorus. Makes me want
to bang my head. Jump in the mosh pit! Throw some elbows.

Harbringer Of Doom - It's alright. I've come to the realization I'd like this
band a lot more live. For me heavy metal, death metal all that stuff is just
something you should be in person for.

Day of Apocalypse - Yeah it's alright. I like the speaking parts. I can tell
this band for sure has a message but, I'm too lazy to look up the lyrics or
anything of the sort. Nice breakdown.

Behold The Face of Death - I like the drums in the start of this one. Really
gets the blood pumping. Behold - the - face - of death. Nice. This one is
pretty damn good.

Twenty One Twent Three - Nice. Oh, nice scream. I really actually like this
guy's vocals. They're robust but, not lost in the screams or the heavy beat.

The Darkest Crime - Another solid track. I'm not exactly sure what to say
about it other than that. This all makes me feel 15 again though.

In The Embrace of Truth - At this point I'm kind of wondering if this is a
band that's questioning religion or is religious. It's a thin line really.
Oh damn that chorus (Is it a chorus?) doe. I nearly started jumping in my
computer chair. Get it RAAWWWWRRRRRRR yyyyaassss.

Fearful Eyes - Hmmmm. This one I don't love as much but, it's still alright.
Tortured and enslaved I think I heard? Well, oh I like this part with just
the guitar and the drums OH YES. Going in for the kill now. That was nice.

Within The Walls of Babylon - Almost thought I had the songs wrong there was
a decent pause lol. Nice solid guitar. I'm going to have to find a mosh pit
after this. Well, maybe not pits theses days are pretty brutal. Anyway, the
track. It's alright. Honestly it's my least favorite. Oh, well there's some
nice parts in the middle. The guitar is still really solid. I like the climb
up and down it's doing.

And it's over. Thanks for the rec that was a great album.

The Batlord · 12-10-2015, 12:29 PM

They're actually a vegan band, so their message is all about the environment and not eating meat. Love the band, hate the preaching.

Horror · 12-10-2015, 01:03 PM

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They're actually a vegan band, so their message is all about the environment and not eating meat. Love the band, hate the preaching.

Not sure what Lucifer has to do with fried chicken but, alright then.
Also, I had like three albums thrown at me and I think the basic rules are one rec per user right?

Honestly I'm just out of here before I open another almost and jump off a high building after paining through it.

The Batlord · 12-10-2015, 01:15 PM

That sample was from a movie called The Prophecy. No idea why they used it.

Horror · 12-10-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

That sample was from a movie called The Prophecy. No idea why they used it.

I think I liked that movie. Huh, well whatever. Good album either way.

The Batlord · 12-10-2015, 03:31 PM

Glad you liked it. I genuinely rec that album to anyone who will listen as it is pretty much my favorite album ATM. I actually tried changing my Torture Chamber rec, but I guess you didn't see it, so...

Boredoms - Pop Tatari

12-10-2015, 10:04 AM	#441 (permalink)
Terrapin_Station Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: NYC Man Posts: 877	I'm pretty sure I heard that one a long time ago, although I didn't recall much about it. But I'm familiar with Schoof, as he's worked with both Albert Mangelsdorff and Mal Waldron, and I'm a big fan of both. Plus, Derek Bailey is on this album, and I actually worked with Bailey briefly at one point--playing that sort of music isn't my usual bag, but Elliott Sharp is a friend of a very good friend of mine, a drummer was needed in a pinch, and I wound up doing a few gigs with Bailey via Sharp. Anyway, I liked that quite a bit. It only has the most abstract relation to traditional songcraft, of course, but there's way too much technical skill involved, and there's far too much interesting textural variation for it to not appeal to me at all. 0% torture on that one--I downloaded it and put it in my library instead. The solos (or apparently duets in some cases based on what I just read about it) are particularly excellent and intense, especially the piano and drum/percussion solos. The piano solo reminded me a lot of Cecil Taylor, who I'm also a fan of. The drum/percussion solo is very prescient of later rock solos.

12-10-2015, 11:31 AM	#445 (permalink)
Horror Music Assassin Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Hell. Posts: 192	ArkAngel - Dead Man Walking Oh you're going to be surprised probably but, I actually kinda like this. From Heaven We Fall - A nice heavy track. I do wish the guitar was a little more imaginative but, this totally reminds me of local shows. It's good. Could be better but, I can almost bet this is one of their early albums. Something about crucify, sacrifice. I can see this is something about Lucifer ? Oh, the part where he's speaking confirms that. Really fantastic track. Written In Black - This one's a little heavier. It's ok but, the vocals are not as good as the first song for sure. I do like the chorus. Makes me want to bang my head. Jump in the mosh pit! Throw some elbows. Harbringer Of Doom - It's alright. I've come to the realization I'd like this band a lot more live. For me heavy metal, death metal all that stuff is just something you should be in person for. Day of Apocalypse - Yeah it's alright. I like the speaking parts. I can tell this band for sure has a message but, I'm too lazy to look up the lyrics or anything of the sort. Nice breakdown. Behold The Face of Death - I like the drums in the start of this one. Really gets the blood pumping. Behold - the - face - of death. Nice. This one is pretty damn good. Twenty One Twent Three - Nice. Oh, nice scream. I really actually like this guy's vocals. They're robust but, not lost in the screams or the heavy beat. The Darkest Crime - Another solid track. I'm not exactly sure what to say about it other than that. This all makes me feel 15 again though. In The Embrace of Truth - At this point I'm kind of wondering if this is a band that's questioning religion or is religious. It's a thin line really. Oh damn that chorus (Is it a chorus?) doe. I nearly started jumping in my computer chair. Get it RAAWWWWRRRRRRR yyyyaassss. Fearful Eyes - Hmmmm. This one I don't love as much but, it's still alright. Tortured and enslaved I think I heard? Well, oh I like this part with just the guitar and the drums OH YES. Going in for the kill now. That was nice. Within The Walls of Babylon - Almost thought I had the songs wrong there was a decent pause lol. Nice solid guitar. I'm going to have to find a mosh pit after this. Well, maybe not pits theses days are pretty brutal. Anyway, the track. It's alright. Honestly it's my least favorite. Oh, well there's some nice parts in the middle. The guitar is still really solid. I like the climb up and down it's doing. And it's over. Thanks for the rec that was a great album.