The rise and fall of musical genres

Trollheart · 08-09-2015, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

I actually did respond to your post, you just missed it. I liked your point on how each new generation feels the need to make sure their music is different from their parents, thus it appeared that the decline of musical genres seemed inevitable.

I guess that is true about prog rock, to be honest it's one genre I know nothing about, basically because it puts me to sleep. If you could map out when it started to ascend, peak and then crash, that would be awesome?

A lot of people have labeled The Strokes & Interpol as part of a "new wave revival" but I would disagree as well, though the influence was definitely in their music.

New Wave essentials, U2, The Police, Blondie, the Eurthymics, Duran Duran, Men at Work, The Bangles & any new wave hits from 81 to 84. By the mid late 80's new wave starts to become over sophisticated & commercialized & thus was eventually given the boot.

As it happens, I have a whole journal dedicated to the history of prog rock and prog metal, so I can do that. I'll come back to you on it.

Sorry to niggle again, but U2 were also never new wave; I think they are about as far from that as could be. They're a simple rock band. Bangles I wouldn't be too sure about but not as much as U2. Not looking for an argument, but I think you got that one wrong...

William_the_Bloody · 08-09-2015, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

As it happens, I have a whole journal dedicated to the history of prog rock and prog metal, so I can do that. I'll come back to you on it.

Sorry to niggle again, but U2 were also never new wave; I think they are about as far from that as could be. They're a simple rock band. Bangles I wouldn't be too sure about but not as much as U2. Not looking for an argument, but I think you got that one wrong...

Well I will have to check that out, perhaps I will actually find a prog rock song I like.

Very well then, I tend to lump that whole movement under new wave, but I shall state that they are alternative rock/post punk, that better.

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Originally Posted by Norg

ever since this thing called the Internet musical genres will never die because they have all been categorized stored and saved : )

I never stated that they die, but they do enter into a decline where they become a niche genre of music for a smaller fanbase.

The Roman Empire is gone but Italy is still one of the world's most powerful economies today. Jazz doesn't dominate the pop charts & music in general like it did in the 50's but it still has a large following.

Trollheart · 08-09-2015, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

Concede.

Because I think there's enough there to support the claim.

I kind of though that was what you meant. Sorry to be picky but I wasn't quite sure and the wording did kind of give the opposite view.

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

Well I will have to check that out, perhaps I will actually find a prog rock song I like.

I'm sure you will. It's a pretty varied genre, from Captain Beefheart and Zappa right up to bands like Spock's Beard and Pendragon.

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Very well then, I tend to lump that whole movement under new wave, but I shall state that they are alternative rock/post punk, that better.

I just remember growing up in Dublin as U2 came on the scene, and they were never really identified with any particular movement or genre, nor I believe identified themselves as one.