The rise and fall of musical genres

EPOCH6 · 08-07-2015, 12:15 PM

I was totally on board with the thrash revival of the late 00's and early 10's, damn near all I listened to between 2008 and 2012. A lot of great albums came out of that movement (Black Future, Waking Into Nightmares, Ironbound, Enter the Grave etc) but a lot more mediocrity came with it, at least thrash is still fun as hell even when it's mediocre. Did that wave of bands see any attention here on the forum? Batlord maybe?

Trollheart · 08-07-2015, 05:48 PM

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with the ascent of Lady Gaga in other artists..

You have juicy scandal to impart?

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All right some disagreement on rap (though I suspect it's more based on passionate rap fans not wanting to let go than statistics)

So far we have....

Jazz, Rock, metal, rap, punk, country and various patchwork of EDM.

You know country was the one genre I thought might defy the odds because it's so rooted in geography, but when I think about it Elvis man is right, rural America has been shrinking over the decades. Peak country probably hit in the late 60's when Cash and Haggard where at their peak.

Okay here is an easy one:

Disco:

Starts in the early 70's and begins to ascends in the mid 70's & we hit peak disco around 1977/78 with colossal hits like Staying Alive & Heart of Glass.

Instead of a natural decline like most music genres it comes to an abrupt end with the disco backlash of 79 (Disco demolition night) where with the exception of a few underground dance clubs, it becomes completely obliterated as a genre by the early 80's with the onset of the New Wave.

Sorry but Blondie were never disco. They were new wave.

William_the_Bloody · 08-07-2015, 05:59 PM

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You have juicy scandal to impart?

Sorry but Blondie were never disco. They were new wave.

Sigh Troll heart, do you really think that someone who worked in the music industry playing in bands, setting up stage equipment & had a home recording studio is not going to know that Blondie was new wave!!!

Heart of Glass is considered a disco hit, its only on over a 1000 disco compilation CD's. Don't be one of those no it all retards that surfs MB to input contrary comments. Your smarter than that.

Trollheart · 08-07-2015, 07:25 PM

Just because something is a hit in the discos William does not make it a disco song, and using Blondie as an example of disco is wrong. Anyway, I don't know what your problem is: I already pointed out the peak/trough of prog (which you completely ignored in your summing up) so it's not like that's the only contribution I've made to the thread. I think in fact I was second to post?

But if I see someone label something as something it isn't, I'll correct it. Nothing wrong with that. Get your facts right and you wont be corrected. "Harry's Game" by Clannad was a huge hit in the clubs, but they're a traditional Irish band. You gonna call them disco too?

William_the_Bloody · 08-07-2015, 11:18 PM

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Just because something is a hit in the discos William does not make it a disco song, and using Blondie as an example of disco is wrong. Anyway, I don't know what your problem is: I already pointed out the peak/trough of prog (which you completely ignored in your summing up) so it's not like that's the only contribution I've made to the thread. I think in fact I was second to post?

But if I see someone label something as something it isn't, I'll correct it. Nothing wrong with that. Get your facts right and you wont be corrected. "Harry's Game" by Clannad was a huge hit in the clubs, but they're a traditional Irish band. You gonna call them disco too?

Well then my apologies Trollheart, I somehow missed your prog rock comment, I appreciate your contribution. Your still wrong on Heart of Glass though, it is a disco song, and disco is awesome

Trollheart · 08-08-2015, 05:12 AM

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Well then my apologies Trollheart, I somehow missed your prog rock comment, I appreciate your contribution. Your still wrong on Heart of Glass though, it is a disco song, and disco is awesome

We'll agree to disagree. I'm not one for fighting and I sure don't want to derail your thread. Yeah, my prog thing was the first thing posted after your OP. I haven't commented since as it's kind of gone in a pretty much rap/hip-hop direction and I have no insight into that.

I do feel however my point about genres crossing over is worth exploring?

The Batlord · 08-08-2015, 02:52 AM

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And metal is most definitely not in a dip, I'd say it's at one of its best stages in its history right now.

Nah, metal's peaked. People will always want to hear extreme forms of music, so I doubt it'll ever truly "die", but the original purpose of metal (being louder than all the music which had come before) was fulfilled with the creation of death metal, grindcore, and 2nd wave black metal.

Now, great music is made for the most part by singular, experimental bands, putting new spins on pre-existing sub-genres, with only a few small scenes forming around any one sound.

Other than that, you just have throwback bands playing the same thrash, black, death, trad, etc metal which other bands already pioneered decades ago.

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I was totally on board with the thrash revival of the late 00's and early 10's, damn near all I listened to between 2008 and 2012. A lot of great albums came out of that movement (Black Future, Waking Into Nightmares, Ironbound, Enter the Grave etc) but a lot more mediocrity came with it, at least thrash is still fun as hell even when it's mediocre. Did that wave of bands see any attention here on the forum? Batlord maybe?

Lost interest in about two months, when I realized it was nothing more than 3rd rate Nuclear Assault worship, kept from any kind of real sonic threat by self-consciously retro schtick. The "thrash revival" is one of the worst jokes in the entirety of metal history. Post-"Home Sweet Home" hair metal had more creative worth.

08-07-2015, 07:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	Just because something is a hit in the discos William does not make it a disco song, and using Blondie as an example of disco is wrong. Anyway, I don't know what your problem is: I already pointed out the peak/trough of prog (which you completely ignored in your summing up) so it's not like that's the only contribution I've made to the thread. I think in fact I was second to post? But if I see someone label something as something it isn't, I'll correct it. Nothing wrong with that. Get your facts right and you wont be corrected. "Harry's Game" by Clannad was a huge hit in the clubs, but they're a traditional Irish band. You gonna call them disco too? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018