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08-20-2015, 08:49 AM | #131 (permalink) | |
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A lot of older people will dismiss whatever music younger generations listen to, often without even giving it any sort of shot at all. Seems to me many people of all generations get 'stuck' in the musical style of their first 20-some years or so and cannot ever leave this bubble. It's interesting that someone mentioned Country, I'm having a very similar discussion with some of the folks at one of my local night spots. They are technically a 'Country' bar, but did, in their first 2 very successful years, also schedule bands that fell more into the 'alternative Country' or even 'Rock' genres, always to a packed house of mostly college- or grad student types. They don't do that any more, Waylon, Willie, Merle & George pretty much rule the waves, which brings the crusty old cowboy guys back (who believe John Travolta is the greatest cowboy who ever rode a mechanical bull and Taylor Swift sux), but keeps the college crowd out. Result: Far fewer people, far lamer bands. I'm trying to tell them to at least play some more contemporary Country, but maybe even that isn't good enough, I think Country may be over as a widely popular genre. |
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08-21-2015, 11:02 AM | #133 (permalink) | |
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(If I went to a metalcore show, I'm pretty sure I would last 2 minutes before I could't handle being around drunken 21 year old white males trying to prove their tribal manhood) That and when your younger & in the music scene you have dreams about being the next Massive Attack, ect. When your older you just have to accept the reality of survival. It's not that I don't like new music, it's just that I don't care, and as result, I have less tolerance for something that doesn't sound recognizably appealing. |
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08-21-2015, 11:17 AM | #134 (permalink) |
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I agree and I think a lot of it has to do with the eternal "That's too loud/That's not loud enough" argument that goes on between the generations. As each new generation comes up, their music is, it seems, more aggressive and louder than that of their parents. Jazz gave way to rock, rock to metal and punk, metal and punk to hip-hop to a degree, and so on. Now, those of us that are considered (ahem) older think much of today's music is too loud, formless and ideally at this time soulless, while those who are younger think that what we listen to is boring, old and irrelevant. And so, I expect, it will always be.
There's also the, as you put it, tribal aspect, where it's considered "uncool" to listen to "old" music, and as everyone wants to be accepted, you get the herd mentality often in music appreciation, where I swear a large percentage of those who listen to today's music (sorry) do so more because it's the thing to do, the thing that makes you acceptable, rather than something they actively enjoy. I was interested to see, when Ed Sheeran played here recently, of the four or so people stopped and interviewed and asked why they liked him, almost every response was "Uh, it's just great. The lyrics. The .... I just really like his music." Showing us that really (although in fairness these people were put on the spot, but still, if someone stopped me in the street and asked me why I liked my favourite band, I could talk their ear off with reasons) nobody KNOWS why they like Ed Sheeran, ergo, nobody really probably does actually like him, it's just a case of going with the crowd.
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08-21-2015, 11:37 AM | #135 (permalink) |
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I hope I don't get to that point where I stop seeking out new music from new bands or artists. Honestly I cannot fathom that version of myself ever coming to be. William seemed to think the same thing, but he's reached that point. I do recall at a Machine Head concert I went to a few months back, I found myself annoyed with those loud, obnoxious people that wanted to be in your face ALL THE DAMN TIME, no sense of respect at all, not to mention they boozed up, some of which were easily 30 or older, me being 28 at the time.
In some ways I might already be morphing in to the type of person William and Wolf described, I could stand to not want to tolerate morons at concerts at the very least, but not giving up seeking out new music to listen to, even if the generation younger than my own is the audience. |
08-21-2015, 11:59 AM | #136 (permalink) | |
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08-21-2015, 12:18 PM | #137 (permalink) |
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Yeah, they probably think they're being "edgy". As far as I'm concerned, I like what I like, be it popular or not, and have always been that way. I have never NOT listened to an artiste because someone told me they weren't cool, though young Trollheart did cast aspersions on the likes of ABBA, Madness, Barry Manilow etc. When I found I liked those bands though (Madness excepted) I just listened to them; I didn't think Oh I can't listen to this! What would my friends say?
Also, I had no friends...
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08-21-2015, 12:24 PM | #138 (permalink) | |
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...curious thing is how some here STILL don't get that about me, and they think picking on me for it will hit a nerve. Most recently was Batty going after me for posting up a Beartooth song, of course he was just having fun (he did hate them though), I still laughed and cranked up Beartooth's album, unapologetic. |
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Old music is so formless and loud. Not like that new Ed Sheeran nonsense. Quote:
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08-21-2015, 02:35 PM | #140 (permalink) | ||
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I think the generation gap today is production slickness, as a lot of modern pop music sounds so overproduced it makes me feel nauseous, like if I just ate too much cherry cheese cake, and the underground, which usually pits itself against the mainstream reflects this. Here's a good example of a band Frownland posted a while back. I've run across a few bands like this now, and if I grew up in a world where soulless pop & R&B dominated the mainstream, I'd try to find a way to butcher it to. Now I can digest anything that is heavy (grindcore ect), but this is harder because its more abstract, like Skinny Puppy or Frank Zappa, and at my age I'm not about to replay it ten times in a row until I learn to appreciate it lol. So generation gap. I think Ninetales also brings up a good point. The amount of young kids that tell me that the music back in the 70's (Pink Floyd, Beatles, Sabbath) is way better than the music today astonishes me. That being said, I take your point on the tribalism, I can't think of any person over 30 that would want to hang out with pea brain 21 year olds. Quote:
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