Noise/Experimental music: can someone explain it to me? - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > The Music Forums > General Music
Register Blogging Today's Posts
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-24-2015, 06:41 PM   #51 (permalink)
silky smooth
 
YorkeDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 4,079
Default

True, I guess I see them a lot differently because Drone sounds so much less abrasive while still retaining all the juicy little pleasant details that innerspaceboy was describing
__________________
http://cloudcover1.bandcamp.com/
http://daydreamsociety.bandcamp.com/

9-Time Winner of MusicBanter's "Most Qualified to be a Moderator" Award

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord View Post
On this one your voice is kind of weird but really intense and awesome
YorkeDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2015, 06:49 PM   #52 (permalink)
Out of Place
 
Black Francis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: in an abstract house
Posts: 4,111
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by innerspaceboy View Post
To offer a pragmatic restructuring of Black's comment, I believe he was addressing the fact that one of the prominent characteristics of much of the noise genre is that it readily lends itself to consideration and reflection.

The sonic properties of many noise compositions invite the listener to consciously detect particular nuances and structures within the "noise" in an effort to formulate concrete, critical perceptions from the otherwise superficial chaos of the piece. This characteristic often attracts the sort of listener who enjoys this sort of analysis and deconstruction.
Yes, this was my ignorant point but you phrased it alot more elegantly.
__________________
"Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A
Black Francis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2015, 06:53 PM   #53 (permalink)
Born to be mild
 
Trollheart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: 404 Not Found
Posts: 26,994
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oriphiel View Post
Really, I don't fancy the genre very much, but I remember this one song that I stumbled upon that left an impression on me. Even though it was fairly simple, it kind of sounded to me like the inside of a house, with a few creaks here and there, while some kind of storm was going on outside. Through it all, there was this steady sort of sound, patterned almost as if something was dripping down. It could have just been a leak in the ceiling, but I kept imagining that it was blood, falling to the floor. So yeah, I don't listen to Noise/Drone music very often, and abstract music isn't my favorite type, but it's fun to enjoy every now and then. A different kind of experience than the more traditional types of music, you know?
That sounds really interesting. Like I think I said (my posts have got a little lost in the flamewar between Yorkie and Francie) I certainly listen to some noise; after all, a lot of electronic music is quite --- what's the word? --- unmelodious? No that's not it. But look at --- and I know it's not the same --- the very opening to Floyd's "Welcome to the machine". I could listen to that (the bit before the bass and the music comes in) easily enough. It's when it's harsh, scratchy, almost violent and seemingly formless and pointless (to me) noise that I find it hard to understand how anyone can listen to it and get anything from it, though obviously a lot of people do.

Innerspaceboy, have you listened to Merzbow I wonder? I'd be interested in your critical take on his approach.
__________________
Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018
Trollheart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2015, 07:02 PM   #54 (permalink)
moon lake inc.
 
Machine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Detroit
Posts: 2,125
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy View Post
Noise and Drone are totally different though, I don't like Noise at all but I love Drone
They can definately cross over though. A lot of drone can be pretty noisy too.
Machine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2015, 07:04 PM   #55 (permalink)
silky smooth
 
YorkeDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 4,079
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Machine View Post
They can definately cross over though. A lot of drone can be pretty noisy too.
Also true
__________________
http://cloudcover1.bandcamp.com/
http://daydreamsociety.bandcamp.com/

9-Time Winner of MusicBanter's "Most Qualified to be a Moderator" Award

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord View Post
On this one your voice is kind of weird but really intense and awesome
YorkeDaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2015, 09:50 AM   #56 (permalink)
Hello!
 
Jade_City's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: corner by Jamal's house
Posts: 203
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EPOCH6 View Post
He's not being narrow minded he's asking us to help him understand, he wants to see the appeal.

I've always found the easiest way to explain experimental abrasive styles is by comparing them to horror films, or more so smut / gore films. For a lot of us it isn't about "enjoying" the music in a conventional sense, it's about the experience and impact, visceral emotion, letting the sound get under your skin. When you watch a gore film and feel repulsed, disgusted, and uncomfortable, the film has done its job. Sometimes we don't want to feel good, we just want to feel something intense, that's what extreme music acheives, it stirs up an intense feeling, whether that's being overwhelmed with confusion, getting pumped up, or feeling terrified, disgusted, unsettled, or claustrophobic. People don't go to haunted houses to feel good, they go to feel that visceral rush of terror, its exciting but not happy, people generally don't go to noise music to be impressed musically or feel good, they go to feel something extreme and intense. If you don't welcome those sorts of emotions into your head it's perfectly reasonable that you don't enjoy the music that conjures up those feelings.
I think you probably explained this the best way. I like a lot of musique concrete, which is basically experimental. I love how they take strange things and mold it into a weird piece of listening. It's unique and different. Francis Dhomont is one of the best.
__________________
WHERE DID YOU GET THAT THING?

FROM THE MOTHERSHIP!
Jade_City is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2015, 07:32 AM   #57 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
Screen13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,388
Default

Some of the harsher and sounds that can be also considered Rhythmic Noise can also be a a fetish to some. Just throwing this thought out especially as it can be a perfect soundtrack to BDSM especially as it's the noise generating part of the effect. I also view Rhythmic Noise is something of an Anti-Social Dance Music - an unleashing of anger in a creative way.

Of course, you could call it sounds for serious Anti-Socials who want to have a "Me Vs. Them" Wall of Sound, but I wanted to view it on a more creative side.

Last edited by Screen13; 06-03-2015 at 08:41 AM.
Screen13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2015, 08:12 AM   #58 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,541
Default

__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2015, 08:19 AM   #59 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,199
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frownland View Post
LOL @ Steely Dan @ :52.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2015, 11:59 AM   #60 (permalink)
Just Keep Swimming...
 
Plankton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: See signature...
Posts: 7,765
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord View Post
LOL @ Steely Dan @ :52.
That's just wrong. Funny, but wrong.
__________________
See location...
Plankton is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Similar Threads



© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.