Love or Hate?

**Frownland** · 08-12-2015, 11:30 PM

It's obviously not the case with everyone, but I honestly think it's the metal tag that leads people into thinking it's boring since they go into the album with inappropriate expectations. Reminds me of when I was a teenager and someone recommended Albert Ayler to me because they heard I like avant-garde music. At the time, what avant-garde music meant to me was Mr. Bungle, Naked City, Frank Zappa, Beefheart, Zu, and a few other bands that were all a little more rock based. When I heard Ayler for the first time I wrote it off as boring noodling since it wasn't the avant-garde music I was used to.

Machine · 08-13-2015, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It's obviously not the case with everyone, but I honestly think it's the metal tag that leads people into thinking it's boring since they go into the album with inappropriate expectations. Reminds me of when I was a teenager and someone recommended Albert Ayler to me because they heard I like avant-garde music. At the time, what avant-garde music meant to me was Mr. Bungle, Naked City, Frank Zappa, Beefheart, Zu, and a few other bands that were all a little more rock based. When I heard Ayler for the first time I wrote it off as boring noodling since it wasn't the avant-garde music I was used to.

Exactly I always put it in the art-rock and experimental rock categories instead of labeling it as metal/prog-metal.

Ninetales · 08-13-2015, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It's obviously not the case with everyone, but I honestly think it's the metal tag that leads people into thinking it's boring since they go into the album with inappropriate expectations. Reminds me of when I was a teenager and someone recommended Albert Ayler to me because they heard I like avant-garde music. At the time, what avant-garde music meant to me was Mr. Bungle, Naked City, Frank Zappa, Beefheart, Zu, and a few other bands that were all a little more rock based. When I heard Ayler for the first time I wrote it off as boring noodling since it wasn't the avant-garde music I was used to.

i wouldnt call Tool boring, its just their sound that grates on me. i can listen and enjoy them in short bursts (The Pot and Schism are v good) but their albums just dont do much for me.

theyre not bad but not great either imo

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	It's obviously not the case with everyone, but I honestly think it's the metal tag that leads people into thinking it's boring since they go into the album with inappropriate expectations. Reminds me of when I was a teenager and someone recommended Albert Ayler to me because they heard I like avant-garde music. At the time, what avant-garde music meant to me was Mr. Bungle, Naked City, Frank Zappa, Beefheart, Zu, and a few other bands that were all a little more rock based. When I heard Ayler for the first time I wrote it off as boring noodling since it wasn't the avant-garde music I was used to. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x