Love or Hate?

Trollheart · 01-04-2016, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Psst you forgot to add my torture chamber rec to the queue as you had promised. In case you've forgotten which album it was, here it is:

Tunnel Canary - Jihad

Sorry. Added now. Should I just Hate it right away?

Also, is the album called Jihad or the band?

**Frownland** · 01-04-2016, 10:18 AM

Tunnel Canary is the band. Who knows though, this might be like MMM, where you assume that you'll hate it with every fiber of your being and get surprised by kind of liking it.

Trollheart · 01-04-2016, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Tunnel Canary is the band. Who knows though, this might be like MMM, where you assume that you'll hate it with every fiber of your being and get surprised by kind of liking it.

I'll know once the Rome album ends in a minute, cos I'm going straight into it. You want me to PM you or will you wait till it's posted?

**Frownland** · 01-04-2016, 10:31 AM

I don't mind waiting. It shouldn't be too bad, it's only two tracks...

Trollheart · 01-04-2016, 10:39 AM

Title: Pom Pom
Artiste: Ariel Pink
Genre: ?
Familiarity: Zero
Recommended by: Machine

Expectations: Not the first idea. I see he's linked in some way to Animal Collective; hopefully he's more entertaining and interesting than I found them!

1. Plastic raincoats in the pig parade: Again with the weird titles! (You know, I really should stop saying that: anyone whose favourite band has titles like “Get 'em out by Friday”, “How dare I be so beautiful” and “Dancing with the moonlit knight” has really no business upbraiding anyone over their choice of song title!) Sounds a bit childish, almost like something you'd hear on Mister Benn or something. Psychedelic with a childish twist. Weird. Can't say I like it to be honest.
2. White freckles: More a kind of new-wave style to this. Don't like it either though. Not starting well. Ok I just changed it from White to Red.
3. Four shadows: This isn't any better. I think I hate this guy.
4. Lipstick: This is very The Cars with the kind of fluting breathy synths. I really hope that indicates an upward swing in the quality. It might. Yeah this is a lot better.
5. Not enough violence: Okay, it's taking a much more Human League/Depeche Mode darkish new wave slant now. Once he stopped pissing about with childish ideas he started to sound a lot better to me. I like this. Hey! Isn't that the bassline out of The Jam's “Start”? Great synthwork here.
6. Put your number in my phone: Love the jangly guitar here. Very Smiths/Morrissey in feel (not that I know much of them, but I know what they sound like).
7. One summer night: This has somehow a very French feeling about it. Synths sound like accordions. Kind of. Slower but not a ballad.
8. Nude beach a-go-go: Back to the stupid childish songs. And we were getting on so well!
9. Goth bomb: Not mad about this one either. Boo.
10. Dinosaur carebears: Bit better, but I'm still not that sold on it. Pretty silly carnival/cartoon sounds through too much of it. Bah. Hmm, then it changes halfway and becomes a decent, sort of reggae-based song. Staying White though.
11. Negative ed: Sort of a parody on a punk song I suppose. Meh. Good guitar solo.
12. Sexual athletics: And now we're ripping off seventies hard rock. Lord.

Even a rap, in case I didn't hate it enough. Oh, and just to be on the safe side, throw in some Beach Boys at the end. Give. Me. Strength.
13. Jell-o: Another stupid childish song. ****ing awful.
14. Black ballerina: Yeah, don't like this one either. Sounds very like The Jacksons' “Blame it on the boogie” from the beginning. Stupid movie clip is annoying.
15. Picture me gone: I'm doin' it, believe me, but you ain't gone! Not yet anyway. Okay, this one at least sounds better, very Divine Comedy, but again the main melody is stolen, I definitely recognise it.
16. Exile on Frog Street: Making something of an effort to finish strongly. Again this has DC overtones about it. The ribbits are funny, for once. Childish elements but not as bad as previously.
17. Dayzed Inn daydreams: And a nice acoustic ender. Sort of folky.

End result: An album that really polarised my opinion; some of it I really, really hated, some of it was okay and there were the odd really good tracks, but not enough to lift this into anything like a Green or even an Orange. Debating as to whether it deserves White or I should go full Red on its ass...

So, Love or Hate? Think I'll let it away with a Meh.

The Batlord · 01-04-2016, 11:10 AM

*sigh*

First of all, Arkangel are a metalcore band, not a thrash one, though they do borrow heavily from the Slayer-riff handbook. Those doomy bits? Those are hardcore breakdowns.

Secondly, Arkangel are from Belgium, not Argentina. No idea where the **** you got that from.

And yes, Arkangel are vegans. While they are also a metal band, they come from a hardcore background, and vegans are a dime-a-dozen in the hardcore scene.

Trollheart · 01-04-2016, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

*sigh*

First of all, Arkangel are a metalcore band, not a thrash one, though they do borrow heavily from the Slayer-riff handbook. Those doomy bits? Those are hardcore breakdowns.

Secondly, Arkangel are from Belgium, not Argentina. No idea where the **** you got that from.

And yes, Arkangel are vegans. While they are also a metal band, they come from a hardcore background, and vegans are a dime-a-dozen in the hardcore scene.

You're just never happy, are you?

Metal Archives has them as Metalcore/Thrash Metal
Had no idea what a "hardcore breakdown" was. Thought that was when you really, really, really needed to see your shrink!

You're right about Belgium; think I was occupied with Cynara in my Listening List and just confused them. What do you care? They're not American, so list under "other", right?

Vegans are hardcore? Weird. It's such a hippy-sounding thing...

The Batlord · 01-04-2016, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

You're just never happy, are you?

Metal Archives has them as Metalcore/Thrash Metal
Had no idea what a "hardcore breakdown" was. Thought that was when you really, really, really needed to see your shrink!

They were listed as "metalcore/thrash metal", and yet you just ignored the first one and went with only the second?

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Vegans are hardcore? Weird. It's such a hippy-sounding thing...

Punks like to be self-righteous and feel like they're crusading for some cause. Veganism is tailor-made for those kinds of people.

Trollheart · 01-04-2016, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

They were listed as "metalcore/thrash metal", and yet you just ignored the first one and went with only the second?

Jesus Christ, it just isn't a fulfilling day for you unless you've criticised me at least once, is it?

I noticed you completely failed to comment on that fact that I liked the ****ing thing. After all your "One album to go to Arkangel" bull, all you want to do is find fault? ****, man. That's messed up.

The Batlord · 01-04-2016, 02:54 PM

Glad you liked it. You still make no sense.

01-04-2016, 10:18 AM	#2522 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Tunnel Canary is the band. Who knows though, this might be like MMM, where you assume that you'll hate it with every fiber of your being and get surprised by kind of liking it. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

01-04-2016, 10:31 AM	#2524 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I don't mind waiting. It shouldn't be too bad, it's only two tracks... __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

01-04-2016, 10:39 AM	#2525 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Title: Pom Pom Artiste: Ariel Pink Genre: ? Familiarity: Zero Recommended by: Machine Expectations: Not the first idea. I see he's linked in some way to Animal Collective; hopefully he's more entertaining and interesting than I found them! 1. Plastic raincoats in the pig parade: Again with the weird titles! (You know, I really should stop saying that: anyone whose favourite band has titles like “Get 'em out by Friday”, “How dare I be so beautiful” and “Dancing with the moonlit knight” has really no business upbraiding anyone over their choice of song title!) Sounds a bit childish, almost like something you'd hear on Mister Benn or something. Psychedelic with a childish twist. Weird. Can't say I like it to be honest. 2. White freckles: More a kind of new-wave style to this. Don't like it either though. Not starting well. Ok I just changed it from White to Red. 3. Four shadows: This isn't any better. I think I hate this guy. 4. Lipstick: This is very The Cars with the kind of fluting breathy synths. I really hope that indicates an upward swing in the quality. It might. Yeah this is a lot better. 5. Not enough violence: Okay, it's taking a much more Human League/Depeche Mode darkish new wave slant now. Once he stopped pissing about with childish ideas he started to sound a lot better to me. I like this. Hey! Isn't that the bassline out of The Jam's “Start”? Great synthwork here. 6. Put your number in my phone: Love the jangly guitar here. Very Smiths/Morrissey in feel (not that I know much of them, but I know what they sound like). 7. One summer night: This has somehow a very French feeling about it. Synths sound like accordions. Kind of. Slower but not a ballad. 8. Nude beach a-go-go: Back to the stupid childish songs. And we were getting on so well! 9. Goth bomb: Not mad about this one either. Boo. 10. Dinosaur carebears: Bit better, but I'm still not that sold on it. Pretty silly carnival/cartoon sounds through too much of it. Bah. Hmm, then it changes halfway and becomes a decent, sort of reggae-based song. Staying White though. 11. Negative ed: Sort of a parody on a punk song I suppose. Meh. Good guitar solo. 12. Sexual athletics: And now we're ripping off seventies hard rock. Lord. Even a rap, in case I didn't hate it enough. Oh, and just to be on the safe side, throw in some Beach Boys at the end. Give. Me. Strength. 13. Jell-o: Another stupid childish song. **ing awful. 14. Black ballerina: Yeah, don't like this one either. Sounds very like The Jacksons' “Blame it on the boogie” from the beginning. Stupid movie clip is annoying. 15. Picture me gone: I'm doin' it, believe me, but you ain't gone! Not yet anyway. Okay, this one at least sounds better, very Divine Comedy, but again the main melody is stolen, I definitely recognise it. 16. Exile on Frog Street: Making something of an effort to finish strongly. Again this has DC overtones about it. The ribbits are funny, for once. Childish elements but not as bad as previously. 17. Dayzed Inn daydreams: And a nice acoustic ender. Sort of folky. End result: An album that really polarised my opinion; some of it I really, really hated, some of it was okay and there were the odd really good tracks, but not enough to lift this into anything like a Green or even an Orange. Debating as to whether it deserves White or I should go full Red on its ass... So, Love or Hate? Think I'll let it away with a Meh*. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018*