Love or Hate?

Trollheart · 12-13-2015, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Hard to say. Yours are more often and generally lead to ****storms, which are always fun, but Frownland tries to downplay just how pissed he is, and so it's a blast to needle him until he finally loses it.

Either way, the Batlord has his fun!

Trollheart · 12-13-2015, 02:47 PM

Title: Lie: The Love and Terror Cult
Artiste: Charles Manson
Genre: Folk
Familiarity: Yeah right: who doesn't know the infamous serial killer?
Recommended by: TechnicLePanther

Expectations: I sort of expect it to be poor, weak and amateurish, yet am conscious of going into this biased on the account of his killing all those people and wanting to kill more. Give a guy a break huh?

But I'm prepared to try to listen with an open mind, if that's even a physical possibility. You know what I mean. Ok, Manson, prove me wrong!

1. Look at your game girl: Not bad, very raw, kind of reminds me of James Taylor (sorry James) just in terms of vocal. Nice melody but nothing too terribly special from the off. I knew he could play and sing, having watched the series Aquarius.
2. Ego: Don't think much of this. Basically spoken word over some acoustic guitar. Like Dylan but without the style and feeling.
3. Mechanical man: More spoken word with faster acoustic guitar. Bit scary that he refers to “The Family” in the lyric. The lyric is rubbish by the way.
4. People say I'm no good: Nice bit of guitar, but to be honest it's kind of like someone who knows two chords trying to make a song. And I know he can play. So it's a little weird, but this is ****ing terrible.
5. Home is where you're happy: Another poor effort. Man this is painful.
6. Arkansas: This one has at least something about it, though the opening stupid voices are annoying.
7. I'll never say never to always: This is ****ing ridiculous! Forty seconds of women singing like children. Gaaahhh!
8. Garbage dump: Well titled.

Really, you couldn't find a word to rhyme with dump, you chump? You couldn't pump a few stumps and bump a rhyme about some girls' rump? You deserve a thump!

Also, robbed the melody. Totally.
9. Don't do anything illegal: Oh dear! Eagle rhymes with illegal? Someone throw this guy in jai --- oh. Wait.
10. Sick city: First track where he actually sounds like a singer and plays his guitar in a musical way. Not bad.
11. Cease to exist: Yeah, that wasn't too bad to be fair.
12. Big iron door: This one's okay.
13. I once knew a man: Sort of a Spanish/Mexican feel to this; not sure what the sound is in the background. It's like dripping water. Maybe some sort of basic percussion?
14. Eyes of a dreamer: Kind of a weak closer.

End result: I set out to hate this album, and yet was prepared to give it a chance. However it seems Manson's talent for murder and manipulation was a whole lot better than his talent for music. I'm not surprised this sold so badly, even given the dark connection. Pretty poor effort overall. I would say stick to the day job, but, you know...

Oh, and thanks a lot TLP! Now I have bloody Manson videos being recommended to me by YouTube! As for spam? No, I do NOT want to join your ****ing family! **** off!

So, Love or Hate? Overall, pretty much as expected: a Hate.

Plainview · 12-13-2015, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

but he also released Trout Mask Replica, the greatest album ever made.

(Not true, by the way.)

**Frownland** · 12-13-2015, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Plainview

(Not true, by the way.)

Not according to the definition of good music taste.

Plainview · 12-13-2015, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Not according to the definition of good music taste.

You mean this guy?

DwnWthVwls · 12-13-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Not according to the definition of good music taste.

Tricked me into viewing your shitty profile page..

Machine · 12-13-2015, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Title: Plains of the Purple Buffalo
Artiste: *Shels
Genre: Post-Rock/Post-Metal
Familiarity: Zero

1. Journey to the plains: This appears to be structured around a Native American vision or something? Anyway it starts deceptively soft then bursts into life, sounds pretty metal I must say, with the guttural roars, though I do dig it, especially the guitar work. I'm really impressed with that start.
2. Plains of the purple buffalo (part 1): The shorter of the two parts; very ethereal, atmospheric, ambient. Nice change of pace.
3. Plains of the purple buffalo (part 2): Blasting out of the gate for part 2 with some powerful guitar and .... actual decipherable vocals! Oh yeah. Like this. Really evocative. Love the melody that builds from about the midpoint. Superb. The choir is immense. The solo trumpet is amazing, and then the way it slowly builds back up just blows me away. Wonderful.
4. Searching for Zihuatenejo: Sort of like a hymn now, very low and reverent, music is minimal --- oh, exploding now into a big guitar anthem. Lovely!
5. Vision quest: This has a gorgeous slow, stately, not quite funereal but close pace, really moving and emotional.
6. Atoll: Another short little choral/instrumental
7. Butterflies (on Luci's way): Powerful, anthemic, slower than the previous tracks (except for “Vision quest”) with some amazing guitar work and a beautiful melody that's almost folk/native in feel. Stops completely after the sixth minute. Silence. Is it coming back in on reprise? I now hear a solitary guitar joined by a vocal and I guess yeah, it's going to reprise. Other voices joining now in a sort of barbershop thing. ****ing superb. Big vocal chorus now, with still two minutes to go. Percussion now and full band and we're off. If there was a rating I could give higher than True Love, this would get it in a heartbeat.
8. Crown of eagle feathers: Another powerful anthem with this time those death growls that greeted us at the beginning of the album. Very effective really.
9. Bastien's angels: Very ambient and laidback for about half the track, then it screeches in on a big guitar and vocal chorus, slowly marching along. I doubt anything on this album is going to be other than Green at the very worst.
10. Conqueror: Gorgeous little picked acoustic guitar, soft vocal, then it kicks up on booming percussion
11. The spirit horse: Really powerful song that takes a little while to get going but doesn't disappoint when it does.
12. Waking: A beautiful piece of abstract music, totally ambient, just so lush.
13. Leaving the plains: And a fantastic powerful instrumental to close a fantastic album.

End result: This album was totally phenomenal! As most of you know, I'm never that gone on instrumental albums; I'll listen to them and enjoy them but they're hard to review. This just took my breath away. Ki, you like post-rock: you should listen to this if you haven't already. It would be right in your wheelhouse I feel.

So, Love or Hate? You know what's coming, surely? It could be nothing less than a True Love for this.

Completely stoked that you enjoyed this. It is by far my favorite "crescendo-core" post-rock album, actually let me take that back, it's one of my favorite post-rock albums in general. Butterflies (On Luci's Way) is just so goddamn stunning.

Trollheart · 12-14-2015, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Tricked me into viewing your shitty profile page..

Rookie mistake!

You have to be always on the alert for Frowny's tricks.

**Frownland** · 12-14-2015, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Tricked me into viewing your shitty profile page..

Speaking of which, thank you for helping me carry on the Batlord spider initiative.

DwnWthVwls · 12-14-2015, 11:37 AM

12-13-2015, 02:47 PM	#2372 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	Title: Lie: The Love and Terror Cult Artiste: Charles Manson Genre: Folk Familiarity: Yeah right: who doesn't know the infamous serial killer? Recommended by: TechnicLePanther Expectations: I sort of expect it to be poor, weak and amateurish, yet am conscious of going into this biased on the account of his killing all those people and wanting to kill more. Give a guy a break huh? But I'm prepared to try to listen with an open mind, if that's even a physical possibility. You know what I mean. Ok, Manson, prove me wrong! 1. Look at your game girl: Not bad, very raw, kind of reminds me of James Taylor (sorry James) just in terms of vocal. Nice melody but nothing too terribly special from the off. I knew he could play and sing, having watched the series Aquarius. 2. Ego: Don't think much of this. Basically spoken word over some acoustic guitar. Like Dylan but without the style and feeling. 3. Mechanical man: More spoken word with faster acoustic guitar. Bit scary that he refers to “The Family” in the lyric. The lyric is rubbish by the way. 4. People say I'm no good: Nice bit of guitar, but to be honest it's kind of like someone who knows two chords trying to make a song. And I know he can play. So it's a little weird, but this is **ing terrible. 5. Home is where you're happy: Another poor effort. Man this is painful. 6. Arkansas: This one has at least something about it, though the opening stupid voices are annoying. 7. I'll never say never to always: This is ing ridiculous! Forty seconds of women singing like children. Gaaahhh! 8. Garbage dump: Well titled. Really, you couldn't find a word to rhyme with dump, you chump? You couldn't pump a few stumps and bump a rhyme about some girls' rump? You deserve a thump! Also, robbed the melody. Totally. 9. Don't do anything illegal: Oh dear! Eagle rhymes with illegal? Someone throw this guy in jai --- oh. Wait. 10. Sick city: First track where he actually sounds like a singer and plays his guitar in a musical way. Not bad. 11. Cease to exist: Yeah, that wasn't too bad to be fair. 12. Big iron door: This one's okay. 13. I once knew a man: Sort of a Spanish/Mexican feel to this; not sure what the sound is in the background. It's like dripping water. Maybe some sort of basic percussion? 14. Eyes of a dreamer: Kind of a weak closer. End result: I set out to hate this album, and yet was prepared to give it a chance. However it seems Manson's talent for murder and manipulation was a whole lot better than his talent for music. I'm not surprised this sold so badly, even given the dark connection. Pretty poor effort overall. I would say stick to the day job, but, you know... Oh, and thanks a lot TLP! Now I have bloody Manson videos being recommended to me by YouTube! As for spam? No, I do NOT want to join your ing family! off! So, Love or Hate? Overall, pretty much as expected: a Hate*. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018*