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Old 01-10-2016, 08:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm just confused as to how "really ****ing good" can get an orange rating. Maybe if someone else had recommended it to you, you wouldn't be so predisposed to getting "pissed off" by the music.
You need a sockpuppet account for stealthy reccing.
Mods are allowed those, right?
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Old 01-10-2016, 09:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm just confused as to how "really ****ing good" can get an orange rating. Maybe if someone else had recommended it to you, you wouldn't be so predisposed to getting "pissed off" by the music.
Although I definitely expect not to like what you rec, believe it or not, I really hope every time that we will click over something. Melting Pariso wotsit was a case in point. But if I don't like something then I won't pretend I do. TLP thought Blur was the shizz, I disagreed. Got nothing to do with him being who he is, or you being who you are. All I can say is, surprise me!
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Old 01-10-2016, 09:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Although I definitely expect not to like what you rec, believe it or not, I really hope every time that we will click over something. Melting Pariso wotsit was a case in point. But if I don't like something then I won't pretend I do. TLP thought Blur was the shizz, I disagreed. Got nothing to do with him being who he is, or you being who you are. All I can say is, surprise me!
Well it's the impression that I got with statements like "I fully expect to hate this" prefacing nearly every one of my rec reviews. And you hating Blur is just another sign that there's hope for you yet.
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Old 01-10-2016, 09:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Well it's the impression that I got with statements like "I fully expect to hate this" prefacing nearly every one of my rec reviews. And you hating Blur is just another sign that there's hope for you yet.
Yeah but I may fully expect to hate it but then end up liking it. As I say, Melting thingy being a case in point where I was fully sure I would not like the album but ended up being really impressed by it. The problem may lie in the fact that you keep picking stuff you must know I won't enjoy, as if by sheer force of will you can make me like it. If you chose something more to my tastes you'd have better success. Another case in point: Beefheart. Hated TMR, loved BJ&M. And you pretty much knew how that would go. So if you think I'll hate something (and how could you not have expected that with Fire Orchestra, knowing my tastes?) then you should not be surprised when that prediction comes true.

I'm sure you listen to a wide variety of music, some of which I probably would like. So why not, when recs reopen, rec one of them instead of this other stuff you know I'll hate? Or at least, if you're not going to do that, then be prepared to accept that I'll hate your recs.
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I generally expect you to like these things. There were definitely some bits like the second track on Enter that I knew you would hate, but I thought that the things that you would've loved would be something that you liked. Maybe I should stop assuming you have good taste, you'll probably take more kindly to my recs (because it's largely genuine).
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I generally expect you to like these things. There were definitely some bits like the second track on Enter that I knew you would hate, but I thought that the things that you would've loved would be something that you liked. Maybe I should stop assuming you have good taste.
That's relative, obviously and very subjective. Maybe a better idea would be to stop assuming I have or will develop the same taste as you. I won't. Try taking that into account when you rec next. Maybe we'll get lucky. But don't assume that your taste is any better than mine. We're different, is all.
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Here we go.
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Not having my taste and having bad taste are the same thing, no?
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Not having my taste and having bad taste are the same thing, no?
Hate to break it to you, but
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Along with the end of the previous track, it's one of my favorite outros of all-time. I don't know if the guy would have changed it for the movie, but if not it would have been too overbearing. As a bookend to an extreme metal album it's great, though. So different than anything you would ever expect to hear, and really dark and unsettling. Goes kind of perfect with the general atmosphere of the album, though, as they're both so cold, misanthropic, and bleak in a way that I don't think I've ever heard from any traditional extreme metal band. I'd be curious to hear what the guy (Ander Bjorler) would do with a whole album of that stuff.

The guitar at the end was obviously not part of the original track, and the feedback was actually created by Anders and some other guy not in the band wrestling in front of two amps while holding their guitars. I love little tidbits about studio experimentation.

And while I know you don't give albums second chances, I'd suggest going back over the first two songs again. They're not really different from the others and are two of the strongest on the album. Perhaps you just hadn't "settled down" with the album before track 3 and would like them more with a second listen? It's not like I'm asking you to give an entire album you already didn't like a second chance, just one little bit of an album you already like.
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