Love or Hate?

Plainview · 08-13-2015, 06:47 AM

I've realised how little you'll like Nuclear War, so can I just push my other Rec up instead and forgot the Sun Ra? Probably for the best!

Machine · 08-13-2015, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It's obviously not the case with everyone, but I honestly think it's the metal tag that leads people into thinking it's boring since they go into the album with inappropriate expectations. Reminds me of when I was a teenager and someone recommended Albert Ayler to me because they heard I like avant-garde music. At the time, what avant-garde music meant to me was Mr. Bungle, Naked City, Frank Zappa, Beefheart, Zu, and a few other bands that were all a little more rock based. When I heard Ayler for the first time I wrote it off as boring noodling since it wasn't the avant-garde music I was used to.

Exactly I always put it in the art-rock and experimental rock categories instead of labeling it as metal/prog-metal.

Ninetales · 08-13-2015, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It's obviously not the case with everyone, but I honestly think it's the metal tag that leads people into thinking it's boring since they go into the album with inappropriate expectations. Reminds me of when I was a teenager and someone recommended Albert Ayler to me because they heard I like avant-garde music. At the time, what avant-garde music meant to me was Mr. Bungle, Naked City, Frank Zappa, Beefheart, Zu, and a few other bands that were all a little more rock based. When I heard Ayler for the first time I wrote it off as boring noodling since it wasn't the avant-garde music I was used to.

i wouldnt call Tool boring, its just their sound that grates on me. i can listen and enjoy them in short bursts (The Pot and Schism are v good) but their albums just dont do much for me.

theyre not bad but not great either imo

grindy · 08-13-2015, 11:10 AM

It's been a year since my last attempt, so I might try again.
Which Tool album would be a good start for me? (fan of prog/experimental, not fan of metal/alternative)

**Frownland** · 08-13-2015, 11:12 AM

Probably Opiate or 10,000 Days. I wouldn't say Tool is very experimental though, their rock roots stand out on all of their albums.

grindy · 08-13-2015, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Probably Opiate or 10,000 Days. I wouldn't say Tool is very experimental though, their rock roots stand out on all of their albums.

Merci.

Machine · 08-13-2015, 03:39 PM

Ænima has always been my favorite by far. It has the most metal influence, but I also think it's their most experimental (that's not really saying all that much though).

grindy · 08-13-2015, 03:50 PM

I know it's unfair and I feel like a dick saying it like that, but Tool sound to me like Nickelback probably sound to a rock fan.
I tried again and just... I'm with TH on this one.

Machine · 08-13-2015, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

I know it's unfair and I feel like a dick saying it like that, but Tool sound to me like Nickelback probably sound to a rock fan.
I tried again and just... I'm with TH on this one.

Yeah fair enough.

Key · 08-13-2015, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

I know it's unfair and I feel like a dick saying it like that, but Tool sound to me like Nickelback probably sound to a rock fan.

That's insulting.

08-13-2015, 11:10 AM	#1564 (permalink)
grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	It's been a year since my last attempt, so I might try again. Which Tool album would be a good start for me? (fan of prog/experimental, not fan of metal/alternative) __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*

08-13-2015, 11:12 AM	#1565 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Probably Opiate or 10,000 Days. I wouldn't say Tool is very experimental though, their rock roots stand out on all of their albums. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Machine moon lake inc. Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,125	Ænima has always been my favorite by far. It has the most metal influence, but I also think it's their most experimental (that's not really saying all that much though). __________________ boost my ego listen to me stroke my delay pedal ever wanted to hear death grips songs... but they're acoustic? me neither.

08-13-2015, 03:50 PM	#1568 (permalink)
grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	I know it's unfair and I feel like a dick saying it like that, but Tool sound to me like Nickelback probably sound to a rock fan. I tried again and just... I'm with TH on this one. __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*