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truth78 05-05-2015 08:04 AM

Why Corporations are boycotting Tidal and Jay Z?
 
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If you are interested in understanding why Corporations are boycotting @TIDALHiFi and Jay Z @S_C_ and stop being brainwashed by media and other people lying to you, you should read and learn about the importance of streaming services for Sony and in general Big Corporations and how they do not wish artists to become independent and run the business but instead they want artists being sucked into the system.

Attachment coming from Sony Hack.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-05-2015 08:51 AM

Corporations in wanting to make money shocker. :eek:

truth78 05-05-2015 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1586186)
Corporations in wanting to make money shocker. :eek:

Corporations going after artists taking away a huge piece of pie from their table.

Corporations want artists to be the pie and be submissive and not independent

ZRFTS 05-07-2015 02:18 AM

Honestly I just want a music industry where independent artists can be independent and have complete creative control without being coerced to be a part of the pie for the sole purpose of having radio airplay and increased "fame".

Mr. Sir 05-07-2015 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by truth78 (Post 1586198)
Corporations want artists to be the pie and be submissive and not independent

I'd love to be a pie.

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Originally Posted by ZRFTS (Post 1586870)
Honestly I just want a music industry where independent artists can be independent and have complete creative control without being coerced to be a part of the pie for the sole purpose of having radio airplay and increased "fame".

I got tired of this argument a long time ago. The music industry you just described isn't some sort of utopia; it exists. There is the possibility to be completely indepent and having little to no creative booby traps: it's called recording yourself. Obviously you shouldn't expect a massive increase in your popularity or a radio hit (instantly), but it's as personal and independent as it gets.

ZRFTS 05-07-2015 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Sir (Post 1586901)
It's called recording yourself. Obviously you shouldn't expect a massive increase in your popularity or a radio hit (instantly), but it's as personal and independent as it gets.

True... I record myself all of the time and it's definitely more difficult to gain respect and true success. Still, I believe in a level playing field but out of respect for fellow musicians I'm not going to get into or continue with what I'm saying.

Mr. Sir 05-07-2015 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ZRFTS (Post 1586913)
True... I record myself all of the time and it's definitely more difficult to gain respect and true success. Still, I believe in a level playing field but out of respect for fellow musicians I'm not going to get into or continue with what I'm saying.

Just to be clear here, which standards do you keep in mind when measuring respect and true success (I assume true success as you mentioned it means having a fanbase with a minimum amount of members in it?)? Personally, I think fame is an extremely negligible aspect of music. I’ve always found that the primary reason for writing music is expressing myself. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying you shouldn’t share your music with other people, but I think it’s just silly to grow music from the hope of gaining familiarity. It’s obviously possible to do this and it might even work out, but why should you? Why would you try to get true success? If you can move one person with your music or a thousand or a million, you’ll still get the same respect you could have gotten from any number of people who love your music. That respect and not the number of fans, if you ask me, is true success.

ZRFTS 05-07-2015 07:42 AM

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Just to be clear here, which standards do you keep in mind when measuring respect and true success (I assume true success as you mentioned it means having a fanbase with a minimum amount of members in it?)?

What you had in parentheses is correct. A consistent fanbase of a few hundred (thousand if your lucky), a minimum cashflow of $50-100 a month and people praising your work instead of calling you out. (dependent on quality of course).

Mr. Sir 05-07-2015 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ZRFTS (Post 1586920)
What you had in parentheses is correct. A consistent fanbase of a few hundred (thousand if your lucky), a minimum cashflow of $50-100 a month and people praising your work instead of calling you out. (dependent on quality of course).

Well, I can't really comment on the size of a fanbase, but over here it's uncommon to get less than $65-70 for a short gig. And that's for a solo project.

DeadChannel 05-07-2015 08:06 AM

Tidal never really was about helping artists though, was it?


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