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Old 04-27-2015, 08:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have to agree on dubstep I mean it'd be cool if it actually had some substance to it but it all ends up sounding the same. It's the same problem I have with EDM.
Like any genre it has internal subgenres and like any genre it has some incredible unseen talent. The dubstep you hear coming from clubs is its own sick breed, there is some incredibly tasteful well-made dubstep out there, and if you're interested in hearing it I can definitely share some, I truly believe you'll enjoy it.
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Old 04-27-2015, 08:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Like any genre it has internal subgenres and like any genre it has some incredible unseen talent. The dubstep you hear coming from clubs is its own sick breed, there is some incredibly tasteful well-made dubstep out there, and if you're interested in hearing it I can definitely share some, I truly believe you'll enjoy it.
Yeah I probably am still very close minded to a lot of it seeing as I haven't given it too much of a chance. If you want to you can rec me some stuff that I'll try out.
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Old 04-27-2015, 09:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah I probably am still very close minded to a lot of it seeing as I haven't given it too much of a chance. If you want to you can rec me some stuff that I'll try out.
I'm not much of a dubstep guy myself but I'm really into drum & bass and the two worlds cross over a bit sometimes so I've inadvertently come across some artists that absolutely blew my mind. Electronic music is a really easy genre to hate because I think more than other genre it's absolutely plagued by its surface material. Most people immediately think of the club scene when they hear the words "electronic music" and the popular club scene is just a mess, very unappealing to most people, especially to people looking for genuine honest creativity. And that really sucks because some of the most incredible musical innovations on Earth are happening behind the scenes in electronic music, some seriously innovative ****, mind boggling ****. I'd go as far as saying electronic music is the most aggressively creative world in music today, it's just so heavily buried under a mountain of glow sticks and shot glasses.

First, please don't continue unless you've got some good headphones (even if it is only YouTube).
For anyone interested in giving perhaps the most hated genre in music a 2nd chance:

Misanthrop is a drum & bass producer most days, but his occasional experiments in dubstep are beautiful and intricate. If you're not familiar with complex bass textures in electronic music this track might take you off guard and show you some sounds you've never heard in your life, please listen with equipment capable of handling sub bass frequencies. This is actually one of my favorite songs of all time:


Broken Note among many other artists on the Ad Noiseam label have produced some extremely tasteful takes on dubstep. The key thing to keep in mind is that most electronic music genres are literally only walled in by rhythmic structures and tempo ranges, sound choice is always completely up to the artist, and with the freedom that digital production grants an artist incredible textures can be built:


Hecq's album Avenger is quite accessible while still demonstrating some pretty interesting production techniques. Ironically Hecq is not primarily a dubstep producer, this album was allegedly his attempt at seeing what could be done within the genre's walls, and the result was quite impressive:
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I have to agree on dubstep I mean it'd be cool if it actually had some substance to it but it all ends up sounding the same. It's the same problem I have with EDM.
Depends how much you've listened to. Skream sounds different to Burial, who sounds different to Sukh Knight/True Tiger which is more like bassy/warped Hip-Hop imo...

I can understand why people wouldn't like it though. I'm not really big on it any more and haven't heard anything I've liked in years but I loved it a few years ago. If you've not heard Benga's album (Diary of an Afro Warrior) or Sukh Knight's 'Cheeze Loueez EP' you should get on that if you want recs. If you want it send me a PM and I'll get it for you cos it might be hard to find.

The Sukh Knight EP is only 6 tracks all of them are bangers. He's got a load of his tracks vocalled by MC's as well, though while I like them it'd be hard to say they have much substance.
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Depends how much you've listened to. Skream sounds different to Burial, who sounds different to Sukh Knight/True Tiger which is more like bassy/warped Hip-Hop imo...

I can understand why people wouldn't like it though. I'm not really big on it any more and haven't heard anything I've liked in years but I loved it a few years ago. If you've not heard Benga's album (Diary of an Afro Warrior) or Sukh Knight's 'Cheeze Loueez EP' you should get on that if you want recs. If you want it send me a PM and I'll get it for you cos it might be hard to find.

The Sukh Knight EP is only 6 tracks all of them are bangers. He's got a load of his tracks vocalled by MC's as well, though while I like them it'd be hard to say they have much substance.
I've listened to almost no "stereotypical" dubstep, but I am completely confused how Burial has anything to do with Skrillex. One is dull techno that I don't even care to classify, while the other is almost ambient. Confused.
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I've listened to almost no "stereotypical" dubstep, but I am completely confused how Burial has anything to do with Skrillex. One is dull techno that I don't even care to classify, while the other is almost ambient. Confused.
A lot of Dubstep fans would say Skrillex isn't Dubstep though. After about 2008 more and more of this bassy shit was made and that was the stuff that became really well known. There's some of it on Benga's album I mentioned before (26 Basslines). Can't think of single tracks atm, but that style.

I've just put Archangel on (Burial track) and I can hear the clear Garage influence (Step), tbh I'm shit at trying to describe genres effectively, but I would say Burial is definitely stereotypical Dubstep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QutJS4mEUhM

Can you hear the similarities between Burial and that (drum pattern) ^
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I've listened to almost no "stereotypical" dubstep, but I am completely confused how Burial has anything to do with Skrillex. One is dull techno that I don't even care to classify, while the other is almost ambient. Confused.
The fact that Skrillex is associated with dubstep is a testament to how things get watered down and crappy once they reach a critical mass. Check out this thread for some great background on the style and for some actual good quality dubstep from back before if became all about cartoonish bass wobbles.
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I've listened to almost no "stereotypical" dubstep, but I am completely confused how Burial has anything to do with Skrillex. One is dull techno that I don't even care to classify, while the other is almost ambient. Confused.
Hehe you think Skrillex is techno
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Missed a few rock subgenres that I tend to avoid.

Have never been able to get down with any shoegaze, emo, indie rock, or most folk rock, post-punk (unless it's instrumental), and garage rock (although garage rock gigs are a load of fun).
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Other than extreme metal, there aren't ny genres I actively dislike. However, I don't listen to much hip-hop, jazz, blues, punk, or reggae. In fact, I'd say you could divide my tastes like this:
20% folk/folk rock/indie folk/whatever
20% psychedelic rock/psychedelic pop
20% power pop/pop rock/new wave
10% glam rock
10% classical
10% progressive rock
10% other
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