DwnWthVwls

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DwnWthVwls

I have a question.. do you expect artists who don't write their own songs to start writing for social commentaries sake?

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The Batlord

My question is, what percentage of "old school" pop stars do you (Soul Flower) actually think made socially conscious music? At times, when social activism was more prevalant -- such as in the mid-late sixties -- pop artists who wrote songs about current events, such as Bob Dylan and Marvin Gaye, may have been somewhat more prevalent. But in general, how many of them actually said anything other than what current ones are doing (have sex, do drugs, and dance the night away)? You keep mentioning the same ones, and I don't know that I'd need two hands to count them on.

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Chula Vista

1970 - maybe the most pivotal year of social change. #1 hits that year.

List of Billboard Hot 100 number-one singles of 1970 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

RoxyRollah

See his signautre Jen..

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RoxyRollah

The bigger point is that, again you want your idols to feel like you do.
Which wont sell records to the masses.The masses want to be entertained, and while you are entertined by it sadly the other hundreds of millions of ppl also buying the record are not entertained by it at all. Being a social justice warrior and a political animal are not revered traits in this industry of cool.There isn't any fanfare and money to be made with glamorous past times like bombing banks,picket lines, and million man marches.You gotta accept the world that you live in.Part of the folly of youth is running around fighting the power like a rebel without a clue,which is a good thing because it means deep down inside you're not a sucka and can think for yourself,but part of the wisdom of age is accepting the reality of what is.Im not saying you can't be a social justice warrior, a political animal,or a stand up gal.What Im saying is exspect that road to be a long,dark and LONELY road because real change is born in the hearts of few, fought for,bled for,and even died for before its ever accepted by many. You are addressing the wrong issue sister,its not why do pop stars not give a ****. Its why does my fellow man NOT GIVE A ****. Instead of your ego wanting the change to come from somewhere with smoke and mirrors,glitz and glam with millions chanting the chorus in unison, the change sadly will come from the trenchs with only the sound of struggle.

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Chula Vista

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Neapolitan

I don't know exactly what Paul meant, but I think he is questioning the notion that something can only be considered "good" if it's popular. Learning about those less popular artist and their interest that he mentioned in a previous post can broaden your awareness on the topic. I guessing a lot of people are (or maybe just one person is) thinking Paul failed miserably trying to add to the conversation, but I say kudos to Paul for trying.

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Soulflower

I never suggested that music was the only source that could make "social change." However, it certainly can be a tool to expose and discuss issues that affect people. I don't see what is so wrong with talking about this issue. In talking about this issue doesn't mean I am suggesting that pop stars are the problems and not "us- the people." However, I think we all work collectively in this world in "the problem." It's not just one set of people or one singular thing that is at fault. In my opinion, music plays a role in this as well. I don't see anything wrong with discussing how music also plays a role in some of the social problems we experience as a society. Of course there are more important things to talk about and probably more important factors that need to be take into consideration in this conversation but since this is a music discussion board I don't see the harm in discussing how the role of music is a factor in this as well.

RoxyRollah

And in a Utopia that would be what would happens. Unfortunately artists gotta eat too and the problem maybe not be that they aren't passionate about causes because most famous blow hards are usually up to their elbows in do gooder causes .They treat that **** like its a merit badge and testament of how awesome they are.Music is ment to reach us on so many levels of the human consciousness, its how we as mortals are able to touch the devine. Or in other cases get in touch with something more sinister.That being noted, each one of us is different and our exsperiences as well,but we are not so different that we can't run across others that dance to the beat of the same drum.If you are tired of your idols and how shallow,tepid,and unconcerned they are, time to seek out fresh blood.Exspand your musical hozirons and you might find you aren't alone.Thats how movements start.

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