Is it possible to be an Original Band? (indie, genre)

Dezzy · 07-12-2005, 04:27 PM

Much is often said about succesful bands. Things like "yeah they're not bad but they sound a lot like the Beatles, or Yeah they're ok but it's a rip off of Queen. Is there actually a completely original band out there. Does it really matter anyway?

Electric Ocean · 07-12-2005, 05:19 PM

If there weren't any original bands wouldn't there be only one genre?

Dezzy · 07-12-2005, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Electric Ocean

If there weren't any original bands wouldn't there be only one genre?

I can't understand your reasoning. In one particular genre you might have several different original slants on it. Do you get me?

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 07-12-2005, 05:41 PM

Yeah, there are original bands. Only thing is, it rarely gets noticed. Its only natural for people to prefer one type of music over another, and something thats completely different to what they prefer wont appeal to LOTS of people.

Hmm. I thought it made sense, but reading back over it.. I dont think it does. Oh well. Make of it what you will.

The Indie Bar Kid · 07-12-2005, 07:04 PM

Mars Volta are pretty original, which proves Dezzy's point, because most prog music is original, because thats what prog is really.

Otherwise most of this millenium has been based on copycatting 80s and 60s music, The Strokes=Velvet Underground + Television, The Killers= New Order + Duran Duran, Coldplay= U2+ Sleeping pills

The Indie Bar Kid · 07-12-2005, 07:05 PM

*Yes I realize Televison were in the 70s, left that off the list accidentaly

The Ever Careful Indie Bar Kid

Electric Ocean · 07-12-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I can't understand your reasoning. In one particular genre you might have several different original slants on it. Do you get me?

Yeah but most of the time when a genre has a new "slant" on it, it becomes a subgenre in it's own right and its original bands that make these genres.

Dezzy · 07-12-2005, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Electric Ocean

Yeah but most of the time when a genre has a new "slant" on it, it becomes a subgenre in it's own right and its original bands that make these genres.

I'm struggling to understand this now. Do you mean the original bands make the subgenre's or first genre?

hookers with machineguns · 07-12-2005, 08:42 PM

Well, you can't say a musician is totally inauthentic because of their influence(s). Writers, painters, even politicians have influences. Even if a band say worshipped the Beatles and basically rewrote their songs, there is room for originality, just based on how they interpret a given Beatles song.

There's a lot of creative talent out there, I think AITA was trying to say something like this, but success has really nothing to do with it (damn trend setters). Maybe what she was trying to say was, people tend to stick to a certain sound and dont realize what's out there.

07-12-2005, 09:02 PM

well a lot of music is about personal opinion and interpretation so orgininality is pretty much based on whether or not one person thinks they are original or not... like others have said, you can sound like a band and still be original......

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Dezzy Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Manchester (southside) Posts: 149	Is it possible to be an Original Band? Much is often said about succesful bands. Things like "yeah they're not bad but they sound a lot like the Beatles, or Yeah they're ok but it's a rip off of Queen. Is there actually a completely original band out there. Does it really matter anyway?

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ArtistInTheAmbulance enchanted. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: cornwailles, angleterre. Posts: 2,537	Yeah, there are original bands. Only thing is, it rarely gets noticed. Its only natural for people to prefer one type of music over another, and something thats completely different to what they prefer wont appeal to LOTS of people. Hmm. I thought it made sense, but reading back over it.. I dont think it does. Oh well. Make of it what you will. __________________ shake your wings like theyre laced with sound!

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The Indie Bar Kid In Original Packaging Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: . Posts: 191	Mars Volta are pretty original, which proves Dezzy's point, because most prog music is original, because thats what prog is really. Otherwise most of this millenium has been based on copycatting 80s and 60s music, The Strokes=Velvet Underground + Television, The Killers= New Order + Duran Duran, Coldplay= U2+ Sleeping pills __________________ We must take all of the medicines too expensive now to sell, Set fire to the preacher who is promising us hell. Into the ear of every anarchist that sleeps, but doesn't dream, We must sing We must sing We must sing I CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEATH AND GLORY.... And Im so clever But clever ain't wise

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The Indie Bar Kid In Original Packaging Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: . Posts: 191	Yes I realize Televison were in the 70s, left that off the list accidentaly The Ever Careful Indie Bar Kid __________________ We must take all of the medicines too expensive now to sell, Set fire to the preacher who is promising us hell. Into the ear of every anarchist that sleeps, but doesn't dream, We must sing We must sing* We must sing I CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEATH AND GLORY.... And Im so clever But clever ain't wise

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Electric Ocean "Knowledge is annoying" Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 230	If there weren't any original bands wouldn't there be only one genre?

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hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,753	Well, you can't say a musician is totally inauthentic because of their influence(s). Writers, painters, even politicians have influences. Even if a band say worshipped the Beatles and basically rewrote their songs, there is room for originality, just based on how they interpret a given Beatles song. There's a lot of creative talent out there, I think AITA was trying to say something like this, but success has really nothing to do with it (damn trend setters). Maybe what she was trying to say was, people tend to stick to a certain sound and dont realize what's out there.

07-12-2005, 09:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
pastor of muppets Guest Posts: n/a	well a lot of music is about personal opinion and interpretation so orgininality is pretty much based on whether or not one person thinks they are original or not... like others have said, you can sound like a band and still be original......