Controversial opinion on music?

tray · 02-06-2015, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Overcast

You mean to say that you've never stripped down to your underwear and mounted your kitchen table? You didn't feel the warm bliss of your mortal human body as you began your joyful ascent into an endless circling pattern, flailing your arms and legs around like a headless frog as your delicate spinning motion grew upon itself into an eventual departure from earth propelled by your toes and sustained in flight by your excess fat? You didn't find yourself in a place devoid of sound except for the faint and distant painful hums of your great grandmother's favorite Gregorian past-time chant music? There wasn't a choir there that was comprised solely of spooky scary skeletons dancing their skeletal dance? The leader didn't walk up to you, lean in close enough that you could smell his decay and whisper into your ear, "Why are you so afraid to dance, Tray? Who hurt you?"

I thought this experience was mandatory procedure for all adults. If you haven't experienced this, how could you even claim to be alive? This might explain your disdain for sexy dancing and dancing adults in general.

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I worry about you.

Stripping down to underwear and dancing on a kitchen table like a headless frog? I'm not the one you need to worry about!

tray · 02-06-2015, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Performing Shakespeare onstage isn't natural, otherwise we'd all be doing it on lunch break at work like little kids on the playground. So cringeworthy! Adults on stage should confine themselves to lunch break activities like eating lunch, making phone calls and surfing the internet.

I don't agree with the analogy between acting and music and would like to stick with the topic on music if you don't mind!

**Janszoon** · 02-06-2015, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tray

I don't agree with the analogy between acting and music and would like to stick with the topic on music if you don't mind!

Why don't you agree with it? Why should actors be exempt from the rules of adult behavior? Down with adults doing things!

tray · 02-06-2015, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Why don't you agree with it?

Well, in my opinion anyway, acting by definition requires a high level of maturity and a very high level of talent and skill.

At the risk of turning this into an acting vs singing debate let me put it this way, anybody can sing and dance around, it's just a fact especially in today's world of autotune, playbacks etc. pretty much anybody can sing, now more than ever before it's a talentless profession.

In fact, the art in the music industry is actually in the writing in my opinion, not the singing or dancing. Writing unique songs with good lyrics, that's where the talent lies. I appreciate good writing, I am a big fan of Eminem's work, Lose Yourself is a classic example of genuine creativity. Did I enjoy seeing Eminem perform it by moving around like a drunken hobo on stage? No. But I can see the talent in the words.

Acting on the other hand, takes genuine talent and skill. To perform a story like Shakespeare on stage and appear as the characters on the script, memorize all those lines and try to appear as closely resembling the character as possible takes an immense amount of dedication and skill. It's a raw profession where it's clear who is good at it and who is not. The same cannot be said about music. It takes no skill to shake your booty and jump around like a kid.

**Janszoon** · 02-06-2015, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tray

Well, in my opinion anyway, acting by definition requires a high level of maturity and a very high level of talent and skill.

At the risk of turning this into an acting vs singing debate let me put it this way, anybody can sing and dance around, it's just a fact especially in today's world of autotune, playbacks etc. pretty much anybody can sing, now more than ever before it's a talentless profession.

In fact, the art in the music industry is actually in the writing in my opinion, not the singing or dancing. Writing unique songs with good lyrics, that's where the talent lies. I appreciate good writing, I am a big fan of Eminem's work, Lose Yourself is a classic example of genuine creativity. Did I enjoy seeing Eminem perform it by moving around like a drunken hobo on stage? No. But I can see the talent in the words.

Acting on the other hand, takes genuine talent and skill. To perform a story like Shakespeare on stage and appear as the characters on the script, memorize all those lines and try to appear as closely resembling the character as possible takes an immense amount of dedication and skill. It's a raw profession where it's clear who is good at it and who is not. The same cannot be said about music. It takes no skill to shake your booty and jump around like a kid.

What about opera singers? I mean they're singers so they're obviously not talented and yet they're on stage acting. They should be ashamed.

tray · 02-06-2015, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

What about opera singers? I mean they're singers so they're obviously not talented and yet they're on stage acting. They should be ashamed.

For every rule there are exceptions! Opera singers are quite dignified in the way they go about doing their thing, they don't act like kids usually. Maybe that's why they're not in popular demand

**Janszoon** · 02-06-2015, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tray

For every rule there are exceptions! Opera singers are quite dignified in the way they go about doing their thing, they don't act like kids usually. Maybe that's why they're not in popular demand

Opera singers sing loudly in public. Who does that? Only little kids.

tray · 02-06-2015, 07:15 AM

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Opera singers sing loudly in public. Who does that? Only little kids.

You're entitled to your opinion, this is all subjective so yeah.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-06-2015, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tray

You're entitled to your opinion, this is all subjective so yeah.

Ah the old 'this is all subjective' quote.
What people resort to when they've run out of anything to say.
If you're just going to reach that conclusion why start the thread at all?

**Janszoon** · 02-06-2015, 07:25 AM

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You're entitled to your opinion, this is all subjective so yeah.

No, it's an objective fact that opera singers sing loudly in public.