Frownland

^Lemme hear your porcupine song bro.

Nice. In the early WISK days I played a bicycle wheel for percussion. I found out later that it had been done by Frank Zappa and was also in Les Triplettes de Belleville so I guess I've lost my innovation card. I'm just another derivative asshole now.

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Mondo Bungle

If you get the wheels spinning real fast it gives the percussion a whole new element

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grindy

Well, I sadly was kidding. No porcupines where I live.
Here's some of some prepared guitar from me.
Pretty mainstream though, with melodies and beats and all. At least the beats are played on the guitar.

https://soundcloud.com/watsche/strin...uff-stuff-wins

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grtwhtgrvty

I didn't sidestep anything. You asked me a loaded question with an analogy that didn't make any sense.

If the introduction was poorly done, well, I don't know, I've never had that experience. Usually when an introduction is poorly done it is perfected when the artist releases their second album, but even that being said, I've never looked at an artist's first album when I really enjoyed them and thought "This is poorly done." I tend to appreciate it for what is.

Never happened to me before. I find that usually (not 100% of the time) artists I love are inspired by music that isn't similar to them. The Knife is probably my favorite of all time and they were inspired by Sonic Youth, Kate Bush, Donnie Darko, David Lynch, etc. I guess you can draw similarities from Kate Bush, but I feel like Kate Bush is such a widely influential artist that it is to be expected. I mean, you just linked me two artists that Death Grips supposedly copied that, to me, sound nothing like Death Grips.

Bear in mind I'm not trying to say that my opinion is factual. It's completely subjective.

Mondo Bungle

Frownland invented spoken word free improv black metal jazz and that song sucks.

















Word

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Frownland

Cool stuff grindy, it's difficult for me to use prepared guitar in a "conventional" setting. It's always very atonal.

I thought the analogy made perfect sense, given that architecture and music are two forms of art. You seriously think B L A C K I E sounds nothing like Death Grips? You might want to check this out then.

I think derivative music can still be interesting as long as it sounds good to me, that's my only criteria. Renaldo and the Loaf is a blatant Residents ripoff band but Songs for Swinging Larvae is still one of my favourite records. It's cool if you want to keep your opinion the way it is, you'll just be missing out on a lot of music that you may enjoy because it's "derivative" of something else that you really like that got firsties.

EDIT: You gonna get cut Mondo.

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Mondo Bungle

I'm the one with the gun and the money and the shades


That's what I'm saying though, I listen to a thousand black metal bands that all sound the same, because they're all awesome.

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Frownland

I'd like to add that I also think that innovation is important but I don't consider it the be-all-end-all of what makes a good artist/album/song.

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Mondo Bungle

Saying "word" earlier just reminded me of selling my xbox for weed.

Man buying xbox: "You smoke tree?"
Me: "Word."

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The Batlord

lolwut

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