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01-12-2015, 01:29 PM | #11 (permalink) | |
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I am not a musician, never will be, but I know that and don't try to pretend I am. Nevertheless, I think I'm a decent reviewer and talk about what the music means to me, what I think the musician is trying to say and also try to put their work in context. Your opinion comes across to me as VERY elitist, right down to the kind of music you claim "non-musicians" review, on which you are totally off base, at least with me and others I know who do not play. To say you have to be a musician to be a proper reviewer is quite an insult to those of us who can't play, but certainly know our stuff. Reverse kudos to you. Consider me insulted. After almost five years of reviewing, and twenty-plus of writing on other subjects, I resent your claim that I do not know what I'm writing about or can't be trusted just because I can't play a musical instrument. Not everyone can, you know, and it's a very snobby thing to claim no reviewer is worth his or her salt if they don't play.
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01-13-2015, 09:39 AM | #12 (permalink) | ||
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My apologies, Troll heart. I definitely did not mean to piss anyone off so much. I aslo didn't mean that it's impossible to be a decent music reviewer without playing an instrument.
In my defense, my number one, worst reviewer, listed at the top, was the very elitist, highly educated in music guy... My number two guy was a list of a whole bunch of qualities that personally bug ME in music reviews, which is basically when someone who knows nothing about music rants or raves about the vibes they got, leaving you knowing nothing about the actual music. This guy could just as easily be a musician, it's just more likely that a musician would want to talk about the actual music, and less about the personal connection, at least in my experience. Aslo, I didn't mean that ALL non-musicians are this guy. or that all non-musicians listen to indie Coldplay-wannabes. I have lots of non-musician friends, almost none of them listen to that stuff. And if they did, that would be fine, too. I was talking about a stereotypical, and I thought humorous group that people might pick up on. Again, apologies if that is insulting. My number three guy, the one I think is the best, yes, I said should be a musician. Now, it's, I suppose, possible to know a ton about music, know some theory, have had great ear training so you can pick up on and correctly identify details of the music that an untrained ear simply cannot. Also, at least around here, the musicians tend to all be friends with each other, and constantly exploring and letting each other in on their discoveries. That's undeniably helpful, or so I would guess. And sure, a non-musician can wiggle into those circles and get that experience too. It just isn't as likely, I would assume, so I didn't include it in my broad description of what makes the best reviewer. But, if you read carfeully, I several times said that basically, what is neccesary are these two things: Quote:
Sure, you can do all that, but at that point, I would call you a musician. Or at least a true student of music... Now, If you don't have any of that knowledge, experience, or skill, can you still write a good review? Sure, but I think you're immediately playing catch up. Now, are there musicians who lack decent ear-training, know no theory, and have limited experience? Heck yeah. Tons of 'em. I don't think they probably write what, to me, are the best reviews. And they're musicians. Quote:
You're probably a great reviewer. Who am I to say no? But finally, this was an explanation of what *I* like to see in a review. It's not necessarily what everyone else wants to see. So yeah, my ideal reveiwer is a musician who can talk to me about the music like a musician. A lot of people don't want that. Again, sorry to offend. |
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01-13-2015, 05:43 PM | #13 (permalink) |
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That's all perfectly fine. Maybe I overreacted. Thanks for qualifying what you said.
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