Music Theory Ideas

Noah Goulet · 12-15-2014, 08:01 AM

One could say that Mozart was the most genius composer of all time. The rate at which he wrote and the quality of his work was unmatched. However, he was not as influential as other composers. Bach has an unmatched intellectuality in his fugues, and the Well-Tempered Clavier revolutionized tonality. His work in counterpoint was not only admired by Mozart himself, but also by more modern composers such as the Beatles. Beethoven's 32 piano sonatas used unprecedented tempo and dynamic changes which led to the emotionally expressive romantic era. During the romantic era, a common fashion was to have a dissonant chord start a phrase and have a key derived from it which resolved to a consonant chord. Wagner, however, in the Tristan prelude, placed one discord after another without resolution. This led to modern music. These three composers made music what it is today, which leads to the question: what's next?
I'm calling upon musicians of every genre and experience level to brainstorm ideas. In my own work I try to use technically difficult theory, although it's all been established before. We need a new style that builds upon modern music in a way that is unprecedented. If you look at the lengths of each era, you'll find that it's about time for us to get into a new one. So, this thread is open to posting ideas as to how we can start a new musical paradigm. The only rule is that we must cast aside the competitive aspect of music and work as a team. If this succeeds, no one individual will receive credit.

Rexx Shredd · 12-15-2014, 01:20 PM

But doesn't The Blues (as an artform) throw diatonic theory out the window? ...and because so many POPULAR genres (including R&B, Gospel Soul, Soul, Funk, Blues Rock, etc) are all derivitives of the Blues, how can anyone really predict how things will evolve in Western Music?

Also -- i admire the idea you are proposing, but by having people contribute to purposefully "invent" a next evolution in music sort-of forces fate's hand and risks the danger of sounding contrived

$.02

Zhanteimi · 12-15-2014, 04:06 PM

Evolution in music must come naturally if it is to be authentic and long-lasting.

Carpe Mortem · 12-15-2014, 04:38 PM

Agreed with Mord to a certain degree. The terms avant garde, progressive, etc usually define a specific style and yet within those styles you find the most innovation. Experimentation occurs continuously and by many is definitely applauded. But if your goal is a widespread evolution of the foundations of music... Good luck buddy.

DeadChannel · 12-15-2014, 05:27 PM

A lot of my favourite artists are always pushing forward and innovating. This is something that happens naturally, you can't force it by getting a bunch of people together.
Try something new, and if it's worthwhile, other artists will pick up on it.
Best of luck.

**Exo** · 12-15-2014, 05:40 PM

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12-15-2014, 08:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
Noah Goulet Groupie Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 4	Music Theory Ideas One could say that Mozart was the most genius composer of all time. The rate at which he wrote and the quality of his work was unmatched. However, he was not as influential as other composers. Bach has an unmatched intellectuality in his fugues, and the Well-Tempered Clavier revolutionized tonality. His work in counterpoint was not only admired by Mozart himself, but also by more modern composers such as the Beatles. Beethoven's 32 piano sonatas used unprecedented tempo and dynamic changes which led to the emotionally expressive romantic era. During the romantic era, a common fashion was to have a dissonant chord start a phrase and have a key derived from it which resolved to a consonant chord. Wagner, however, in the Tristan prelude, placed one discord after another without resolution. This led to modern music. These three composers made music what it is today, which leads to the question: what's next? I'm calling upon musicians of every genre and experience level to brainstorm ideas. In my own work I try to use technically difficult theory, although it's all been established before. We need a new style that builds upon modern music in a way that is unprecedented. If you look at the lengths of each era, you'll find that it's about time for us to get into a new one. So, this thread is open to posting ideas as to how we can start a new musical paradigm. The only rule is that we must cast aside the competitive aspect of music and work as a team. If this succeeds, no one individual will receive credit.

12-15-2014, 01:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rexx Shredd Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 158	But doesn't The Blues (as an artform) throw diatonic theory out the window? ...and because so many POPULAR genres (including R&B, Gospel Soul, Soul, Funk, Blues Rock, etc) are all derivitives of the Blues, how can anyone really predict how things will evolve in Western Music? Also -- i admire the idea you are proposing, but by having people contribute to purposefully "invent" a next evolution in music sort-of forces fate's hand and risks the danger of sounding contrived $.02 __________________ OK :) URBAN SHOKKER -- Old School P-Funk Style FUNK -- out NOW on Carbon 12 Records

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Carpe Mortem Crusher of tiny Nords Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Ugly Bag of Mostly Water Posts: 1,363	Agreed with Mord to a certain degree. The terms avant garde, progressive, etc usually define a specific style and yet within those styles you find the most innovation. Experimentation occurs continuously and by many is definitely applauded. But if your goal is a widespread evolution of the foundations of music... Good luck buddy. __________________ [SIG][/SIG] Mirth is King Be Loving & Open With My Emotions

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Zhanteimi Mord Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 4,873	Evolution in music must come naturally if it is to be authentic and long-lasting.

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DeadChannel Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 1,259	A lot of my favourite artists are always pushing forward and innovating. This is something that happens naturally, you can't force it by getting a bunch of people together. Try something new, and if it's worthwhile, other artists will pick up on it. Best of luck.

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