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Old 11-28-2014, 11:36 AM   #71 (permalink)
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but recognizable is relative. what did rock n roll mean before it became a popular genre? its a nonsense name no better than shoegaze to describe sound.
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Old 11-28-2014, 11:45 AM   #72 (permalink)
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but recognizable is relative. what did rock n roll mean before it became a popular genre? its a nonsense name no better than shoegaze to describe sound.
before it became a popular genre? I guess Rhythm & Blues slightly sped up, but with the majority of people playing it being white instead of black.
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Old 11-28-2014, 11:55 AM   #73 (permalink)
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well I just mean naming a genre of music after a cluster of minerals doesn't describe the sound of it.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:08 PM   #74 (permalink)
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well I just mean naming a genre of music after a cluster of minerals doesn't describe the sound of it.
Sure it does. Metals are usually heavier (or, I guess more accurately, denser) than crystals, and other solids. Heavy Metal referred to Rock music that was "heavier" than normal, have deeper bass lines, more distorted instruments, a thick wall of sound. The term supposedly came from the song "Born to be Wild" by Steppenwolf (the line "a heavy metal thunder!") and was used to describe heavy prog/psychadelic songs.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:09 PM   #75 (permalink)
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I thought Rock n Roll was named after the motion of rocking rather than stonework.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:37 PM   #76 (permalink)
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but recognizable is relative. what did rock n roll mean before it became a popular genre? its a nonsense name no better than shoegaze to describe sound.
the terms "Rock N Roll", "Rock Me", "Roll Me", etc all used to describe the act of sex in the early 20th Century
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Old 11-28-2014, 06:31 PM   #78 (permalink)
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the terms "Rock N Roll", "Rock Me", "Roll Me", etc all used to describe the act of sex in the early 20th Century
Which fits quite well with the pulsing, pounding beats I hear in rock 'n' roll.

I have rarely heard anything so straight-up erotic as "Paint It Black". The sound of it...
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Old 11-29-2014, 01:40 PM   #79 (permalink)
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In regards to the discussion about uninformative genre descriptions, I have noticed that the most silly and least descriptive labels are often coined by the music press/music journalists (for example "shoegaze" and "krautrock") and the genre names that are more informative and logical often originate from the musicians themselves (many from song titles or lyrics it seems). Don't know why so many of the former category have gotten the status of "official" genre names, though.
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Old 11-30-2014, 04:21 AM   #80 (permalink)
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I wonder where this conversation might go when dealing with electronic music. Or really, just any music that has a certain characteristic between subgenres that lends itself to a style and approach that human beings just generally find classification of such to be a discovery tool, rather than a status...
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