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Old 11-24-2014, 04:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I heard Mastodon referred to as whalecore once, because of an album cover. That's where I draw the line.
That made my day

I hate using the different kinds of expiremental music sometimes it all gets so muddled I usually just go with avant-garde, or expiremental.
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Old 11-24-2014, 04:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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This reminds me, there's also useful genres with really stupid or odd names. How the hell did singer songwriter and indie turn into genres?
How are R&B and contemperary R&B even in the same genre? Easycore? What kind of name for a genre is that?

Also, how the hell is k pop and j pop a seperate genre? The country where it comes from is..the country where it comes from. I know the sound can be different, But that shouldn't be in the genre, the country is a seperate thing. Whats next, Afghanistan pop?
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I heard Mastodon referred to as whalecore once, because of an album cover. That's where I draw the line.
Gojira is more whalecore tho
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I especially hate the ones that have more to do with the fashion of the bands that the music itself.
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So is Colin Stetson whale minimalism?
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So is Colin Stetson whale minimalism?
along with David Rothenberg
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Old 11-24-2014, 07:06 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Also, how the hell is k pop and j pop a seperate genre? The country where it comes from is..the country where it comes from. I know the sound can be different, But that shouldn't be in the genre, the country is a seperate thing. Whats next, Afghanistan pop?
Or Britpop? Sheesh.

One subgenre that I think has failed to split off into something more descriptive is post-rock. Initially it separated bands that used rock instruments in more inventive ways than traditional, such as Stereolab for example. Electronics were also a big part of the mix. Then post-rock was adopted for bands playing moody, atmospheric instrumental rock. Now you can't even call Stereolab post-rock because people will think they're atmospheric instrumental rock. And many of those bands aren't really experimenting or doing anything particularly innovative. It's fucking atmospheric instrumental rock! Why don't we have such a genre? There are many more recent bands that I think the label post-rock would apply to, but because they're not instrumental atmospheric rock, I don't and neither does anyone else.

On RYM, there are hundreds of metal subgenres and sub-subgenres yet we don't have anything to separate stuff that was originally called post-rock from the more recent post-rock. If anything, people have retroactively started calling original post-rock indietronica, which I think is bullshit.

No genre name should end with an 'a' anyway.
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There are, as George Martin once so perspicuously stated, only two types of music: good and bad.
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Or Britpop? Sheesh.

One subgenre that I think has failed to split off into something more descriptive is post-rock. Initially it separated bands that used rock instruments in more inventive ways than traditional, such as Stereolab for example. Electronics were also a big part of the mix. Then post-rock was adopted for bands playing moody, atmospheric instrumental rock. Now you can't even call Stereolab post-rock because people will think they're atmospheric instrumental rock. And many of those bands aren't really experimenting or doing anything particularly innovative. It's fucking atmospheric instrumental rock! Why don't we have such a genre? There are many more recent bands that I think the label post-rock would apply to, but because they're not instrumental atmospheric rock, I don't and neither does anyone else.

On RYM, there are hundreds of metal subgenres and sub-subgenres yet we don't have anything to separate stuff that was originally called post-rock from the more recent post-rock. If anything, people have retroactively started calling original post-rock indietronica, which I think is bullshit.

No genre name should end with an 'a' anyway.
Post-Rock to me is a genre that needs someone to do something new with it I mean I love a lot of post - rock bands, but as you said bands like Tortoise, Stereolab, and Slint aren't really considered post-rock because they aren't doing what everyone else is which like you said is dreary usually melancholy atmospheric rock.
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yeah theres like 2 completely separate parts of post-rock. the early Slint, Dirty Three, Tortoise, Talk Talk, etc (in fact you could probably separate this even further). and the crescendocore post-rock Godspeed, Explosions, Mogwai, etc.

I heard someone compare Godspeed to Pearl Jam in that they basically ruined a genre (unintentionally of course) by breeding a bunch of knockoffs that took over. Kinda seems right.
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