Soulflower

Thanks

Frownland

oh the irony.

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Thelonious Monkey

Meh. Labels suck. Prefer to just enjoy the music than give everything a label. Sorry for not contributing to the thread topic, but I see no reason why people worry or argue about this stuff.

Soulflower

I have provided a ton of reasons for why Janet is an Icon but people continue to say I haven't lol

If you don't think she is an Icon, why don't YOU provide reasons.

Frownland

I don't know anything about her. I was saying that it was ironic, you saying just because you don't like an artist that it doesn't make them not an icon, which is one of your favourite pasttimes.

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Chula Vista

No. You've provided your reasons for why you think she is an icon.

She had some really good years there for a while and Rhythm Nation was a pretty important album to a segment when it was released but JJ is not an icon in the truest sense of the word IMO.

Her bother is an icon though.

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Soulflower

But there are legitimate objective reasoning for my statement.

I am not saying it because I like her. I am saying it because she has made iconic moments in pop culture that still influences today.

Instead of insisting she is not an Icon, why don't you listen to her music and become educated on her like I did with Tom Waits.

Soulflower

So Rhythm Nation is not an iconic album?

Rhythm Nation is not an Iconic video?

lol ok

I never said she was on the same level as Michael, NO ONE is but that still does not change she is an Icon

Frownland

You're missing my point. I'm not saying she's not an icon. I'm saying that just because you don't like an artist like Kanye or Lady Gaga doesn't strip them of being icons. I provided you with objective (lulz) information on why they were icons and you were blinded by your dislike for them.

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James

I don't think an artist can be iconic when it's already been established that multiple people can't name a single song by them. Icon is such an intense, loaded word. Not everybody that is famous is an icon, but to be icon you need to be in the public consciousness even today.
And The Bodyguard an iconic moment? That movie is utter gash and I'd be hard pressed to find a person of my generation who has seen. Heck, I'd struggle to find many that even know who Kevin Costner is.