Icon vs Legend (subjective or objective terms?) Which one is more enduring?

Zhanteimi · 11-25-2014, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I don't particularly care if an artist is pretentious, so long as they make good music. I'd rather listen to pretentious but entertaining, rather than grounded but boring.

Me, too.

**Frownland** · 11-25-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I'm curious. Do you sit there and listen to that kind of stuff like other people listen to mainstream? Like say you have an hour drive ahead of you, would play you these musical "noise experiments"?

I'm not knocking you for it. I just don't get it.

Ja I do, drone and noise are among my favourite genres. Though to be honest, when I listen to that album I usually skip that song.

Funnily enough John Cage was a massive influence on John Cale.

DwnWthVwls · 11-25-2014, 07:24 PM

I don't think I could ever take a road trip with you.

I'm gonna have to try and listen to more of it when I'm doing stuff, see if it grows on me. It's really interesting, I just haven't found anything that's grabbed my ears.

Mondo Bungle · 11-25-2014, 07:28 PM

it all starts with Mr. Bungle

**Frownland** · 11-25-2014, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I don't think I could ever take a road trip with you.

Well I listen to other types of music and I always keep my company in mind. Except for my roommates, they get no mercy.

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I'm gonna have to try and listen to more of it when I'm doing stuff, see if it grows on me. It's really interesting, I just haven't found anything that's grabbed my ears.

It's always worth giving new music a shot, but if it's not your thing that's cool too. PM me if you want any recs though.

And it does start with Bungle, been listening to then my whole life.

Black Francis · 11-26-2014, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Vanilla Ice is more of an icon than Janet Jackson. Even after all these years, his fame hasn't really diminished any, and "Ice, Ice Baby" is still as ubiquitous as ever, even if a lot of people just know the chorus and that bass line. He's pretty much the ultimate posterboy of the one-hit wonder in a way that eclipses many established and respected artists.

Do you even know when you're kidding by this point?
No, just No, Janet jackson's tittie is more iconic than Vanilla ice

The Batlord · 11-26-2014, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

Do you even know when you're kidding by this point?
No, just No, Janet jackson's tittie is more iconic than Vanilla ice

Nope. Janet's boob was a spectacle that people talked about and still remember, but "Ice Ice Baby" is a beloved piece of pop culture history. Even though they still remember it, nobody really cares about the boob anymore, but "Ice Ice Baby" is eternal.

Chula Vista · 11-26-2014, 07:55 AM

Black Francis · 11-26-2014, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Nope. Janet's boob was a spectacle that people talked about and still remember, but "Ice Ice Baby" is a beloved piece of pop culture history. Even though they still remember it, nobody really cares about the boob anymore, but "Ice Ice Baby" is eternal.

Not a day goes by where i don't think about Janet jackson's boob and seriously, if we're lowering the icon bar so low that Vanilla ice is one Janet should be one as well cause Vanilla had Ice baby but Janet jackson had rhythm nation, That's the way love goes, Any time Any Place and more hits Vanilla ice was just a white Mc hammer with one hit.

Chula Vista · 11-26-2014, 08:04 AM

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aka The Master Bator

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