Your Top 50 Albums

**Frownland** · 06-28-2017, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

That always seems to be the compliant about Devin's solo stuff and I never understand it. Songs like "Bastards 1-2" and "Funeral" don't sound like '80's arena rock to me. If anything I'd say his 2003 album Accelerated Evolution is the closest thing that comes to arena rock.

It's the guitar tone and partly his singing style.

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I mean if all you want is SYL-lite then you can listen to Physicist and see why maybe it's not such a good thing.

I don't want that. SYL is just the only time I could get behind Townsend.

Anteater · 06-28-2017, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Life needs to learn how to appreciate the finger things in me.

You like vaporwave, so I don't see how you can say those particular types of influences are cringey. People who let guitar tone or production style get in their way of appreciating something are the ones with the problem. You gotta be like Rocky and get in the ring boi.

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

That always seems to be the compliant about Devin's solo stuff and I never understand it. Songs like "Bastards 1-2" and "Funeral" don't sound like '80's arena rock to me. If anything I'd say his 2003 album Accelerated Evolution is the closest thing that comes to arena rock. I mean if all you want is SYL-lite then you can listen to Physicist and see why maybe it's not such a good thing.

Agreed with all this. 'Funeral' is a magnificent song with an overall aesthetic that has more in common with shoegaze than AOR. What Frown is talking about is a stupid complaint. It's like saying In The Court Of The Crimson King isn't worth someone's time because it was made in 1969 and doesn't have trap beatz.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 06-28-2017, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Not only is half that list gross, but you put Master of Puppets twice. Fail.

not to mention he put the only Slipknot album worth while way too low on the list

**Frownland** · 06-28-2017, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

You like vaporwave, so I don't see how you can say those particular types of influences are cringey. People who let guitar tone or production style get in their way of appreciating something are the ones with the problem.

I don't like all vaporwave, like Eccojams for example. And don't worry, Devin is great at making the whole package unpalatable for me, guitar tone and overpolished (which makes it sound inauthentic imo) are just two elements of that particular album that I don't like.

The Batlord · 06-28-2017, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

You like vaporwave, so I don't see how you can say those particular types of influences are cringey. People who let guitar tone or production style get in their way of appreciating something are the ones with the problem.

Wut. Production and tone affect how music sounds. Sound is kind of the main thing that music is about, so changing that will change the music.

Am I talking to a crash test dummy or something?

**Frownland** · 06-28-2017, 03:27 PM

I'm supposed to like it so I can feel enlightened or something like that.

Anteater · 06-28-2017, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Wut. Production and tone affect how music sounds. Sound is kind of the main thing that music is about, so changing that will change the music.

Am I talking to a crash test dummy or something?

They are stupid complaints that ignore the actual songwriting at play because he thinks a guitar tone is too 80's-ish and thus the album is unlistenable. This isn't hard to understand: think about people dismissing your favorite early 90's death metal albums because of the way they were produced or what they were trying to go for.

**Frownland** · 06-28-2017, 03:33 PM

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They're stupid complaints that ignore the actual songwriting at play because he thinks a guitar tone is too 80's ish and thus the album is unlistenable. This isn't hard to understand: think about people dismissing your favorite early 90's death metal albums because of the way they were produced or what they were trying to go for.

Chill out, Chula.

Anteater · 06-28-2017, 03:36 PM

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Chill out, Chula.

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...unpalatable for me, guitar tone and overpolished (which makes it sound inauthentic1111111) are just two elements of that particular album that I don't like.

Neapolitan · 06-28-2017, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

They're stupid complaints that ignore the actual songwriting at play because he thinks a guitar tone is too 80's-ish and thus the album is unlistenable. This isn't hard to understand: think about people dismissing your favorite early 90's death metal albums because of the way they were produced or what they were trying to go for.

I lost track to who made the original complaint. But a lot of other people complain about 80s sound production from louder snare drums to over processed guitars or the thin sounds or overused factory settings of FM synthesizers etc etc. And some people mark the end of the 80s are the beginning of the volume wars. Whenever I see a complaint about the 80s I see it as a typical complaint, I don't immediately chalk it up as a stupid complaint. Personally I tend to prefer the lot-fi sounds during the early 80s to the hi production sounds of late 80s.

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