Originally Posted by The Batlord

It gets a lot of hate because of all the ****ty metalcore and melodic death metal bands that were somewhere down the road influenced by it. It was a watershed album for a dubious subgenre or two and gets treated unfairly by many as a result.

But as for actual criticisms of the album, I mean yeah it's more polished than a lot of metal, with slicker production than is the norm for many bands, and the songwriting has been pretty streamlined from their beginnings as a death metal band, but those are its strengths. The production is oppressive and mechanical, making it even more nihilistic than it would have been with a more straightforward production job; and the songwriting is pretty brilliant as it takes the aesthetics of extreme metal and arrives somewhere near thrash, except whereas thrash going for death metal generally tries to sound extra raw and obnoxious, At the Gates going from extremeness to melodicism gives them sort of an interesting assbackwards take on the sound.

And regardless of what people may think of the aesthetics of the album, the songs are simply top notch. So **** all that ****.

Originally Posted by grindy

Just don't piss in his mouth or shove stuff in his dick. He tends to frown upon that.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by grindy

Just don't piss in his mouth or shove stuff in his dick. He tends to frown upon that.

Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix

A lot of fantastic records on that list. I love that The Strokes are on there.

Originally Posted by mord

Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.

Originally Posted by Frownland

"Solid Space is rad."
-Everybody

Originally Posted by mord

Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.

Originally Posted by grindy

Just don't piss in his mouth or shove stuff in his dick. He tends to frown upon that.

Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix

Badmotorfinger
Talking Heads: 77
Nursery Cryme
Disraeli Gears
The Great 28
The Yes Records
The Mix
Please Please Me
Squeeze's singles compilation

I would say those are the ones I find fantastic. The others on your list I haven't listened in full or I need to give them more time before I give my final thoughts on them.

Originally Posted by mord

Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Disraeli Gears & Please Please Me weren't the ones I expected to see mentioned. (I guess I am use to seeing them get panned around here.) If you like The Strokes, you might like "Girlfriend" by Matthew Sweet. Robert Quine and Richard Lloyd play guitar on the album. Each one had his on channel for the recording, one on the left the other on the right. Another is "Can't Stand the Rezillos," Jo Callis on guitar (he wrote most of the material) and William Mysterious owns the bass on that album.

Originally Posted by grindy

Just don't piss in his mouth or shove stuff in his dick. He tends to frown upon that.

Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix

I will check them out. Thanks for the recs.

I generally hated please please me until I realized I was taking the record to seriously. It's not meant to be looked at the same way as a white album or a sgt. Peppers. I've always loved cream though.

Originally Posted by mord

Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.