I just don't get it...

RL Clown · 10-19-2014, 04:37 PM

I don't get it... What causes peaceful people to listen to music with violent lyrics? If I were to judge myself, I would label myself as a humble and peaceful person. But I listen to Eminem, ICP, Twiztid, Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit, and a bunch of musicians who swear a lot. Why would I do that? Well, as a human being, sometimes I feel angry. But I also listen to these musicians when I'm not feeling angry. Why? To escape the norm... Can you imagine how boring life would be if musicians did not use profanity? Can you imagine how boring life would be if musicians did not talk about violence?

Trollheart · 10-19-2014, 06:13 PM

Huh? Your title, basically. You say you don't get it, what causes people to listen to violent music, then end by saying what would music be like if musicians weren't violent? Are you agreeing or disagreeing with your own question? Also, have you never listened to classical, ambient, or any sort of gentle acoustic music? pop? Prog? Funk? Reggae? Jazz? AOR? The amount of singers who are "violent" in their lyrics, outside of extreme metal -- maybe hip hop and punk, I don't know enough to make that assumption --- is I would think quite minimal. So what's your point, or is there one? And are ye for it or agin it?

**Janszoon** · 10-19-2014, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Huh? Your title, basically. You say you don't get it, what causes people to listen to violent music, then end by saying what would music be like if musicians weren't violent? Are you agreeing or disagreeing with your own question? Also, have you never listened to classical, ambient, or any sort of gentle acoustic music? pop? Prog? Funk? Reggae? Jazz? AOR? The amount of singers who are "violent" in their lyrics, outside of extreme metal -- maybe hip hop and punk, I don't know enough to make that assumption --- is I would think quite minimal. So what's your point, or is there one? And are ye for it or agin it?

I think there's actually a fair amount of violent content in a lot of music. Opera, blues, country, reggae and folk all come to mind.

Trollheart · 10-20-2014, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I think there's actually a fair amount of violent content in a lot of music. Opera, blues, country, reggae and folk all come to mind.

That depends on your definition of violence of course. I think he was talking more about people writing violent lyrics as opposed to you know, maybe protest songs, or allusions to violence. But my point stands: there is still a massive amount of music written, and being written, without any violence in it. Just listened to Strawberry Alarm Clock's "Incense and peppermints" for the Psych Album Club last night: not a hint of violence in that!

In any case, he's still contradicting himself and I'm interested to know where he stands on the subject?

**Janszoon** · 10-20-2014, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

That depends on your definition of violence of course. I think he was talking more about people writing violent lyrics as opposed to you know, maybe protest songs, or allusions to violence. But my point stands: there is still a massive amount of music written, and being written, without any violence in it. Just listened to Strawberry Alarm Clock's "Incense and peppermints" for the Psych Album Club last night: not a hint of violence in that!

I was talking about violent content, not protest songs. Think of all the operas that tell violent stories or all the murder ballads from the worlds of country and blues. I agree obviously that there's plenty of music out there without violent content, but I was just pointing out that it exists in a variety of genres, not just extreme metal and hip hop.

grindy · 10-20-2014, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

That depends on your definition of violence of course. I think he was talking more about people writing violent lyrics as opposed to you know, maybe protest songs, or allusions to violence. But my point stands: there is still a massive amount of music written, and being written, without any violence in it. Just listened to Strawberry Alarm Clock's "Incense and peppermints" for the Psych Album Club last night: not a hint of violence in that!

In any case, he's still contradicting himself and I'm interested to know where he stands on the subject?

It makes you think about all those poor, helpless drugs being burned and devoured. Pretty violent imagery actually.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-20-2014, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

The amount of singers who are "violent" in their lyrics, outside of extreme metal -- maybe hip hop and punk, I don't know enough to make that assumption --- is I would think quite minimal.

You really do need dragging out of your comfort zone.

Trollheart · 10-20-2014, 01:04 PM

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You really do need dragging out of your comfort zone.

I've been dragged quite enough thank you (cough) grindcore(cough) out of my comfort zone over the last few months, and am looking forward to relaxing after the 31st with a nice mug of tea and a biscuit --- well, a plateful of biscuits! --- listening to some nice soothing prog.

bob. · 10-20-2014, 07:14 PM

i think what he is getting at is that there is violence in all genres of music....obviously some more than others

Opera for instance....people getting stabbed through the heart with spears and women killing themselves in fire....and that's just the second act of Götterdämmerung

10-19-2014, 04:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
RL Clown Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 182	I just don't get it... I don't get it... What causes peaceful people to listen to music with violent lyrics? If I were to judge myself, I would label myself as a humble and peaceful person. But I listen to Eminem, ICP, Twiztid, Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit, and a bunch of musicians who swear a lot. Why would I do that? Well, as a human being, sometimes I feel angry. But I also listen to these musicians when I'm not feeling angry. Why? To escape the norm... Can you imagine how boring life would be if musicians did not use profanity? Can you imagine how boring life would be if musicians did not talk about violence?

10-19-2014, 06:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	Huh? Your title, basically. You say you don't get it, what causes people to listen to violent music, then end by saying what would music be like if musicians weren't violent? Are you agreeing or disagreeing with your own question? Also, have you never listened to classical, ambient, or any sort of gentle acoustic music? pop? Prog? Funk? Reggae? Jazz? AOR? The amount of singers who are "violent" in their lyrics, outside of extreme metal -- maybe hip hop and punk, I don't know enough to make that assumption --- is I would think quite minimal. So what's your point, or is there one? And are ye for it or agin it? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

10-20-2014, 07:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
bob. Still sends his reguards. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Trying to get out of the cat town.... Posts: 5,039	i think what he is getting at is that there is violence in all genres of music....obviously some more than others Opera for instance....people getting stabbed through the heart with spears and women killing themselves in fire....and that's just the second act of Götterdämmerung __________________ A kiss is the beginning of cannibalism. Reach out, pierce the fine fabric of the sheltering sky, take repose.