People who truly appreciate music

**Goofle** · 10-17-2014, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

What is it?

Boom Bip + Doseone - Circle

Trollheart · 10-17-2014, 05:58 PM

Yeah, I agree with both of you. The internet has enabled me to get into so much music I would never have thought to try, or indeed have the money to buy, and in that regard has really broadened my musical outlook. But I remember the thrill of going into your local record shop to find that your favourite band had a new album out. Before the net and all those lists, you didn't know about this unless you got a fanzine or read it in a mag. That's been lost now: we know like a year beforehand that so-and-so is planning a new album.

I remember when I thought Marillion were dead (stop cheering, Urban!) and was amazed to find a secondhand CD copy of "Seasons end", their first album after Fish, in of all things a bloody religious book shop that did other second hand stuff. Tell that to kids these days, they won't believe ya!

Yeah, the element of wonder is basically gone in that regard. Like Steinman said: "There ain't no Coup deVille hiding at the bottom of a Crackerjack box"!

bob. · 10-17-2014, 06:04 PM

Marillion died after Fish

that was another thing....it was much more esoteric....like buying my first Tones on Tail album and the store clerk deciding to school me on good music....or even finding other bands simply by reading the liner notes on records and who they thanked...does anyone even do that anymore?

**Frownland** · 10-17-2014, 06:10 PM

^When I was falling off the deep end into music I got a lot of advice from a clerk at the record store after he saw I was buying Mr. Bungle, Captain Beefheart, and Marc Ribot in one sitting. He even gave me my copies of Fantomas's debut and John Zorn's Spy vs. Spy for free.

Chula Vista · 10-17-2014, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I remember when I thought Marillion were dead (stop cheering, Urban!) and was amazed to find a secondhand CD copy of "Seasons end"

If you like that you definitely have to pick up both Afraid of Sunlight and Brave. They are both on par with Season's End and I think I actually like them better.

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Originally Posted by bob.

Marillion died after Fish

Initially after getting into them I liked the Fish more but over time I've been brought over to the Hogarth camp. Hogarth has a one in a million voice and I find Fish's stuff to be a bit too overly dramatic and he tries too hard to be Peter Gabriel at times.

If I could only choose one it would be Hogarth for sure.

bob. · 10-17-2014, 06:13 PM

Blasphemer!

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-17-2014, 06:13 PM

I saw Fish play one of his last ever gigs in the UK with Marillion. I believe he only played 3 more after that.
They were crap.

Trollheart · 10-17-2014, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

If you like that you definitely have to pick up both Afraid of Sunlight and Brave. They are both on par with Season's End and I think I actually like them better.

Oh don't misunderstand: I'm a dyed-in-the-wool fan: I even have "Somewhere else"!

It was just back then it was a shock to realise they were still around. Like getting "Aqua" by Asia when I thought they were all done.

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Initially after getting into them I liked the Fish more but over time I've been brought over to the Hogarth camp. Hogarth has a one in a million voice and I find Fish's stuff to be a bit too overly dramatic and he tries too hard to be Peter Gabriel at times.

If I could only choose one it would be Hogarth for sure.

I never had a problem liking both. After all, it's just the singer, the band is still the same. I love both though. I would say Fish was more an amalgam of Gabriel and Hammill, but he was definitely an angrier voice than Hogarth (well, maybe on parts of "Brave"...)

Trollheart · 10-17-2014, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

I saw Fish play one of his last ever gigs in the UK with Marillion. I believe he only played 3 more after that.
They were crap.

Yeah well that's the problem innit? He was more than likely set on leaving, so may not have had his heart in it, and they wondering how they were going to replace him. I saw them both on the "Fugazi" tour (1984) in Hammersmith Odeon, with a copy of the new album tucked away on vinyl in my hotel room, and "Misplaced childhood" (1985) here at home, and they blew me away both times.

Moss · 10-17-2014, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

^When I was falling off the deep end into music I got a lot of advice from a clerk at the record store after he saw I was buying Mr. Bungle, Captain Beefheart, and Marc Ribot in one sitting. He even gave me my copies of Fantomas's debut and John Zorn's Spy vs. Spy for free.

Awesome, not something you are going to get from Amazon or ITunes.

10-17-2014, 05:58 PM	#22 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	Yeah, I agree with both of you. The internet has enabled me to get into so much music I would never have thought to try, or indeed have the money to buy, and in that regard has really broadened my musical outlook. But I remember the thrill of going into your local record shop to find that your favourite band had a new album out. Before the net and all those lists, you didn't know about this unless you got a fanzine or read it in a mag. That's been lost now: we know like a year beforehand that so-and-so is planning a new album. I remember when I thought Marillion were dead (stop cheering, Urban!) and was amazed to find a secondhand CD copy of "Seasons end", their first album after Fish, in of all things a bloody religious book shop that did other second hand stuff. Tell that to kids these days, they won't believe ya! Yeah, the element of wonder is basically gone in that regard. Like Steinman said: "There ain't no Coup deVille hiding at the bottom of a Crackerjack box"! __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

10-17-2014, 06:04 PM	#23 (permalink)
bob. Still sends his reguards. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Trying to get out of the cat town.... Posts: 5,039	Marillion died after Fish that was another thing....it was much more esoteric....like buying my first Tones on Tail album and the store clerk deciding to school me on good music....or even finding other bands simply by reading the liner notes on records and who they thanked...does anyone even do that anymore? __________________ A kiss is the beginning of cannibalism. Reach out, pierce the fine fabric of the sheltering sky, take repose.

10-17-2014, 06:10 PM	#24 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	^When I was falling off the deep end into music I got a lot of advice from a clerk at the record store after he saw I was buying Mr. Bungle, Captain Beefheart, and Marc Ribot in one sitting. He even gave me my copies of Fantomas's debut and John Zorn's Spy vs. Spy for free. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

10-17-2014, 06:13 PM	#26 (permalink)
bob. Still sends his reguards. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Trying to get out of the cat town.... Posts: 5,039	Blasphemer! __________________ A kiss is the beginning of cannibalism. Reach out, pierce the fine fabric of the sheltering sky, take repose.

10-17-2014, 06:13 PM	#27 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I saw Fish play one of his last ever gigs in the UK with Marillion. I believe he only played 3 more after that. They were crap. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.