Zhanteimi

It's not music. It's sound experimentation that could be incorporated into a larger musical work but cannot stand alone as music.

Frownland

At what point does sound experimentation stop becoming music? It's composed, it has rhythm, it has melody, it even uses conventional instruments to a smaller degree. I see Water Walk as a more explicit portrayal of sounds that we wouldn't normally consider music than 4'33. If those sounds were incorporated into a musique concrete piece, would you then consider it music? Or if you heard it without watching it?

I don't know if I've seen you answer the OP, what's your general take?

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