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Old 11-25-2014, 10:39 AM   #271 (permalink)
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^^^^^

Aural experimentation.

Not music.
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Old 11-25-2014, 10:53 AM   #272 (permalink)
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Old 11-25-2014, 02:11 PM   #273 (permalink)
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^^^^^

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Not music.
how is it not music???

that one seems way less ambiguous to me (aka it's absolutely music).
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Old 11-25-2014, 02:18 PM   #274 (permalink)
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4'33 isn't music at all in my opinion. Round two obviously goes to John Cage though.
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Old 11-25-2014, 03:23 PM   #275 (permalink)
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how is it not music???
It doesn't fit my personal criteria of what music is. It obviously does fit your criteria.

It's a guy randomly putting together a bunch of noises. There's no notes, no melody, no harmony, no sense of time, no sense of rhythm, no sense of even the slightest structure whatsoever.
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Old 11-25-2014, 03:24 PM   #276 (permalink)
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It doesn't fit my personal criteria of what music is. It obviously does fit your criteria.

It's a guy randomly putting together a bunch of noises. There's no notes, no melody, no harmony, no sense of time, no sense of rhythm, no sense of even the slightest structure whatsoever.
Maybe no harmony, but there is a melody, as in a series of notes, and it is incredibly structured, as was mentioned in the video. Also, listen to the tape recording in the background, there is quite clearly a sense of rhythm there, not to mention the timing of the other acts give in to a sense of rhythm as well.
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Old 11-25-2014, 03:55 PM   #277 (permalink)
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This is definitely music it had traditional instruments like tape and piano as well as unconventional it made a pretty awesome soundscape as well as being carefully orchestrated reminds me of some of Applebaum's work and while possibly not the intention was also fairly amusing/entertaining.
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This is definitely music it had traditional instruments like tape and piano as well as unconventional it made a pretty awesome soundscape as well as being carefully orchestrated reminds me of some of Applebaum's work and while possibly not the intention was also fairly amusing/entertaining.
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Old 11-25-2014, 04:40 PM   #279 (permalink)
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It's not music. It's sound experimentation that could be incorporated into a larger musical work but cannot stand alone as music.
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Old 11-25-2014, 04:41 PM   #280 (permalink)
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Is noise music not music?
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