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11-24-2014, 08:08 PM | #241 (permalink) |
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Listen, if there was a single note played at 0'01 of the piece and then another at 4'43 of the piece it becomes music. A lame ass artsy fartsy interpretation of music but still music.
But dead silence is dead silence whether there's musicians on stage in front of an audience or not. But this thread proves that Cage was a genius in his own weird sort of way.
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11-24-2014, 08:11 PM | #243 (permalink) | |
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Though most of his other works aren't the topic of discussion when it comes to defining music.
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How can you divide silence into three parts? That doesn't make any sense. It's just measuring time.
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11-24-2014, 08:28 PM | #245 (permalink) |
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The interpretation I favor is that the music being made is the music that naturally comes from the real world. Basically I agree with what Frownland is saying.
Justin, if you looked up 4'33" on Youtube, and all you got from it was "I don't hear the musicians playing," you were, in my opinion, missing the point of the piece. You talk about how it's "silent" in your house right now. Cage asks you to consider just how silent it actually is - what are the small noises that you normally wouldn't pay attention to? Why aren't they just as valid musically as, I don't know, the Beatles are? Cage attempts to make you consider these things - if you don't (which is clearly the case), there's a question of whether Cage has failed or whether you as the listener are somehow not living up to your responsibilities. (I tend to favor the first point of view, for whatever it's worth, but it's an interesting argument.) (I'm going to cut this off here so I can get back to watching the Ferguson press conference. Frownland is saying this better than I can.) |
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If I point to a rock that doesn't make me a rock, anymore than "4'33" "pointing out" music doesn't make it music. As has been said, it's art, not music.
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It is music boi
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