Pet_Sounds

Probably because he wanted his money back.

Who says "Yesterday" is the most covered song of all time? I cover a snippet of 4'33" every time I sit down at my piano and open a book of sheet music.

Which leads to another question:

Is 4'33" 4'33" when it's not being performed?

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Chula Vista

I think people get upset when others try to label the piece "music".

Although it did inspire this....

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Ninetales

why would that upset anyone

Chula Vista

Upset is the wrong word. I'm going to start calling the calculator on my desk a cat.

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Ninetales

why do you think it's not music?

Chula Vista

Because it's snake oil.

I'm going to assemble 18 ball players at a ballpark and instruct them to sit in the dugouts doing nothing for 2.5 hours.

Can I say that it was a ball game?

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Ninetales

I think we can agree that art and sporting events are completely different in their parameters, right?

Mondo Bungle

The only reason I didn't consider it music was the structural absence of any sound whatsoever. You guys may have changed my mind a little bit, and surely it can be called music when listened to or performed live, but in my opinion I just didn't think of this song as any sort of music.



From a purely compositional standpoint. But then again, it is divided into three parts, and I don't know how the writing process went down, so I don't know what I think.

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Chula Vista

4'33 is definitely art. But it's not music. My analogy was meant in that regard.

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Frownland

Knowing John Cage he probably used the I Ching to determine the lengths if the rests.

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