What is music, what is not?

~~Soulflower~~ · 10-13-2014, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

No, actually. It's just as ignorant of you to tell me that my opinion is close-minded, when you know that I'm not like that. Anyway the probelm I have with Ninetales is not that he does not agree with me --- he's entitled to that. It's his contention that my opinion does not count. It's the nasty slur he's directing at me. I know he probably doesn't mean to be nasty, but he is. If I don't think someone running ten photocopiers at once onstage is music, then I'm close-minded, am I? Would you prefer I pretended to like things I don't like, or just run along with the crowd? At least I'm being honest.

And I'll state one more time before I leave this: my opinion is MINE. It is NOT for ANYONE to call it shitty; you can disagree with me, say I think you're wrong etc but to use that sort of childish language is beneath anyone, and I'm annoyed at it. Nobody has a right to tell me my opinion is shitty. My opinion is mine; just because it doesn't chime with yours, his, or anyone else's does not make it wrong.

Now leave me alone: I have metal reviews to write...

I agree with this entire post.

I don't think people should be forced or bullied into expressing an opinion just to please others.

Whether someone thinks it is close minded or not, it is still YOUR opinion what you consider to be as music or what you consider not to be music.

Just my 2 cents.

Ninetales · 10-13-2014, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Plankton

Define "dissing". Calling someones opinion '****ty' would be the equivalent of being dissed around where I come from, and saying you're not 'dissing' someone when you clearly did is called back pedaling. I can understand what you were talking about, ie TH's dislike or defining a genre as not music, but how can one person's opinion be a bad opinion? Based on what YOU perceive? Your opinion of his opinion relies solely on your personal perception of the matter. It is NOT fact, it is OPINION.

“All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”

- Douglas Adams

Plankton · 10-13-2014, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

“All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”

- Douglas Adams

Holy side stepping the issue Batman.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-13-2014, 12:10 PM

If you're not in my music collection I don't care what you call it.

Plankton · 10-13-2014, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

If you're not in my music collection I don't care what you call it.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-13-2014, 12:16 PM

^^

My first 2 names are R & J too

Ninetales · 10-13-2014, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Plankton

Holy side stepping the issue Batman.

I had no idea that using the word shitty would be the one thing, in all that ive said here, that sticks.

EDIT: for the record: feel free to call my opinions shitty. just back it up with something meaningful.

Plankton · 10-13-2014, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

I had no idea that using the word shitty would be the one thing, in all that ive said here, that sticks.

Yeah, that was a bit rude, and condescending... IMHO.

DwnWthVwls · 10-13-2014, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

If I said turtlenecks aren't pieces of clothing, because well I don't wear turtlenecks, would you respect my opinion? You shouldn't. We can disagree on how much we like turtlenecks all we want, but they are clothes, regardless of what I say/think they are. The definition of music may have room for interpretation,

Good analogy but what if the turtleneck was made out of dog sh*t? Is it still clothing?

I like the Douglas Adams quote a lot btw, and completely agree with it.

Ninetales · 10-13-2014, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Plankton

Yeah, that was a bit rude, and condescending... IMHO.

And I think arbitrarily calling Grindcore not music is rude and condescending.

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Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	If you're not in my music collection I don't care what you call it. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

10-13-2014, 12:16 PM	#96 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	^^ My first 2 names are R & J too __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.