What's your view?

**Frownland** · 10-11-2014, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

Yes, and I've seen that. In fact my mom's a piano teacher. But I don't put that phenomenon down to the fact that they're talented at playing an instrument. I put it down to the fact that they're musically talented. Anyone can learn the actual mechanics of playing an instrument.

But being musically talented makes learning the mechanics of an instrument far easier than someone without it. There's significantly less of a learning curve for some people.

Pet_Sounds · 10-11-2014, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

But being musically talented makes learning the mechanics of an instrument far easier than someone without it. There's significantly less of a learning curve for some people.

Exactly. But from my experience, you can have all the talent in the world, and it still won't elevate you above the guy who puts in the ten thousand hours.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-11-2014, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

Exactly. But from my experience, you can have all the talent in the world, and it still won't elevate you above the guy who puts in the ten thousand hours.

That isn't talent though, that's technical proficiency.

Pet_Sounds · 10-11-2014, 03:19 PM

I think we're all saying the same thing now.

DwnWthVwls · 10-11-2014, 03:29 PM

I think I was making a distinction between natural talent and learned talent.

Pet_Sounds · 10-11-2014, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I think I was making a distinction between natural talent and learned talent.

I agree. I think my original post was unclear. My point is that playing an instrument is something that anyone can learn, given the time and dedication. Musical talent, the kind it takes to write a symphony, the kind it takes to write a complex melody that stays in your head, is something that can't be learned.

Black Francis · 10-11-2014, 05:18 PM

I kinda get your point Pet sounds but for me that kinda sounds like talent for emulating not talent for creating.

Just cause you can emulate Hendrix doesn't mean you'll be as good as him. practice and education in music does help alot but it can't replace natural talent.

i find it's very hard to pinpoint where natural talent comes from but some ppl have an innate talent to certain things, be it music or drawing or even sports.

Maybe it comes from their personal out look on life, maybe it comes from their formal training or maybe it comes from a natural affinity to the subject, i really don't know.. there's too many variables to consider but even withouth over thinking it you recognise when an individual has a unique talent.

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