Why do people blame Nirvana for killing Hair Metal?

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 10-04-2014, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

I'm not supporting it as a fact. I am using it as an example to support why Disco is underrated. I have used other examples as well not just this one.

Well that has been obvious the whole thread.

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I think you should take your own advice.

Why? He didn't ignore evidence because it didn't suit his own opinion.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-04-2014, 01:23 AM

This is an interesting thread and everything, but I read all fourteen pages only to see that Soulflower is still more or less full of herself. It's hard to debate with someone that gets lost in their own head, and has such a hard time excepting other peoples opinions of things. And this back and forth between Frownland is just embarrassing. Sir, you are far more tolerant of Soulflower than I ever will be. I cannot bring myself to actually talk to her because I just know at some point, I or someone else, will say something about something she said, she'll be caught, and the crap she's doing with you, Frownland, will start in.

It gives me a headache...

Carry on everyone. Nirvana is over rated by the way, but their music isn't too shabby either.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 10-04-2014, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

No because I never said that you specifically made that statement.

It would have been a problem if I had said, "Ki you said that you disagreed with my statement". I did not do that.

I simply expressed an opinion about how you derived to your assumption which I am technically entitled to. I am entitled to my opinion.

Yes but remember opinions are not facts. All you care about is your opinion and everyone else who disagrees (supported by facts) can bugger off, which is what I'm hearing from you.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 10-04-2014, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Yes but remember opinions are not facts. All you care about is your opinion and everyone else who disagrees (supported by facts) can bugger off, which is what I'm hearing from you.

Pretty much what I said too, just not so nicely.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 10-04-2014, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

This is an interesting thread and everything, but I read all fourteen pages only to see that Soulflower is still more or less full of herself. It's hard to debate with someone that gets lost in their own head, and has such a hard time excepting other peoples opinions of things. And this back and forth between Frownland is just embarrassing. Sir, you are far more tolerant of Soulflower than I ever will be. I cannot bring myself to actually talk to her because I just know at some point, I or someone else, will say something about something she said, she'll be caught, and the crap she's doing with you, Frownland, will start in.

It gives me a headache...

Carry on everyone. Nirvana is over rated by the way, but their music isn't too shabby either.

I said this about her months ago in the SPYG thread and people got annoyed with me because they thought she was "lovely". I said she was too stuck in her own thoughts and doesn't care about anyone else's. If you do agree with her she thanks you.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 10-04-2014, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

Pretty much what I said too, just not so nicely.

I'm not wanting to be mean but at the same time I want her to realise that it's not impressing anyone.

**Frownland** · 10-04-2014, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

This is an interesting thread and everything, but I read all fourteen pages only to see that Soulflower is still more or less full of herself. It's hard to debate with someone that gets lost in their own head, and has such a hard time excepting other peoples opinions of things. And this back and forth between Frownland is just embarrassing. Sir, you are far more tolerant of Soulflower than I ever will be. I cannot bring myself to actually talk to her because I just know at some point, I or someone else, will say something about something she said, she'll be caught, and the crap she's doing with you, Frownland, will start in.

It gives me a headache...

Carry on everyone. Nirvana is over rated by the way, but their music isn't too shabby either.

I get reeled in every time. Grr that goddamn ignorance and single-mindedness boils my blood.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-04-2014, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

Those are very different points. So I am a bit confuse with the point you are trying to make because I never imply this at all.

No they're not I was simply clarifying what I meant in the first post.

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I am referring to the way they snub acts that they nominate themselves not every single other act that is not nominated because they might not be eligible.

Snubbed in your opinion.

I don't pay much attention to the hall of fame, but even I knew that fans of Kiss & Rush were petitioning to get them in because they'd been ignored every year for something like 15 years by saying things like 'It's supposed to be the Rock n Roll hall of fame yet they put in ABBA & The Bee Gees in ahead of two of the biggest rock bands of the 70s'.

I don't recall anyone making the same case for Donna Summer and I speak of someone that likes her music.

Besides, why does she deserve it so much?
I don't see for example the Smiths in there.

If it was down to Donna Summer or The Smiths who I don't believe are inducted currently for a place in a ceremony on a particular year do you go with an artist like Donna Summer who sold a shit ton of records over a short 5 or 6 year period of time and spent the next 30 years basically being a nostalgia act.

Or do you choose a band who never had great record sales, but had a couple of hits but who have sold a steady stream of albums over a 30 year period who have stayed relevant despite being split up for most of that time and who I would argue are more popular now with a teen/20something audience than when they were together in the mid 80s.

Personally I think Donna Summer would have only stood a chance of getting in that hall of fame in two ways. Her suddenly reinvented herself for a new audience and having huge selling hits again, or as an acknowledgement of her talent when she died.
It turned out to be the latter.

Key · 10-04-2014, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

I'm not wanting to be mean but at the same time I want her to realise that it's not impressing anyone.

She comes off as the type of person that regardless of the facts you provide, she'll have someway to counter that with her opinion, and if she's proven wrong, she gets defensive. Like I said before, she has a knack for poor debate.

Norg · 10-04-2014, 01:30 AM

Why do people think NU metal killed grunge ..???? : )

10-04-2014, 01:23 AM	#142 (permalink)
CoNtrivedNiHilism Because I Am, I Can! Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,128	This is an interesting thread and everything, but I read all fourteen pages only to see that Soulflower is still more or less full of herself. It's hard to debate with someone that gets lost in their own head, and has such a hard time excepting other peoples opinions of things. And this back and forth between Frownland is just embarrassing. Sir, you are far more tolerant of Soulflower than I ever will be. I cannot bring myself to actually talk to her because I just know at some point, I or someone else, will say something about something she said, she'll be caught, and the crap she's doing with you, Frownland, will start in. It gives me a headache... Carry on everyone. Nirvana is over rated by the way, but their music isn't too shabby either.

10-04-2014, 01:30 AM	#150 (permalink)
Norg Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,358	Why do people think NU metal killed grunge ..???? : )