Older Stuff vs Newer Stuff (singer, rap, albums, beatles)

boo boo · 07-07-2005, 01:13 AM

then:
beatles
zeppelin
floyd
who
hendrix
doors
yes
crimson
ELP
sabbath

VS:

now:
good charlotte
simple plan
the libertines
yellowcard
slipknot
linkin park
green day

ill go with then.

07-07-2005, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by phoenixflames

One thing that hasn't been brought up is that most people start listening to bands on their first few CDs, and like the early sound because its what they are familar with.

yes, i spose i can agree.... but, for me with the RHCP, i bought californincation then by the way then bssm and i like bssm more sooo yeah... exception i spose....

Krosstika · 07-07-2005, 05:16 AM

Well lets face it people...musicianship has become a lost art. Many guitarists in bands today would have trouble telling you the difference between a pentatonic and mixolydian scale!!!
As the years pass us by, these great artists we look up to so dearly...will be with us no more and will be replaced by band's in the likes of 'Linkin Park'

'Green Day'

'Sum41'

and...GAAAH! why do i bother...maybe there is no future!? nah...there is really...somewhere!

i can see the future...holy sh!t...its a ferret!!!!

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 07-07-2005, 06:48 AM

^I wouldnt agree with that... Its just that Linkin Park, Sum 41 and Green Day and all that are more popular now. There's still really good quality music out there you just gotta look out for it.

And as for the older vs newer thang... I dont know, it depends. Youd expect a band to get better over the years, seeing as theyve had more time to work together and can only get better. Normally for me, yeah, I prefer the older stuff.. Mebbe things get corrupted through business and crap...

PhishFood · 07-07-2005, 10:36 AM

Prefering olderstuff is hipster cliche, even though it's well founded most the time.... It's true there's a shortage of quality musicians out there, but just look at all the undiscover indie bands, In 30 years no one will remember Good Charollette or Linkin park, but they probably will remeber Modest mouse and Radiohead.

Krosstika · 07-07-2005, 10:55 AM

^Aye, yer right Radiohead are very good, i wont complain about that... but out of a very small percentage of music like that other will fall into room 101 and be forgotten forever

PhishFood · 07-07-2005, 11:06 AM

yeah, but it's not like we rembered every great band of the 60s and 70s.... theres alot more than just what you hear on classic rock radio.

Krosstika · 07-07-2005, 11:19 AM

mmm, its just depending on what you appreciate really, each to there own i say!

hookers with machineguns · 07-07-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Krosstika

There was a time when musicians created and expressed themselves in their music and it became popular on its own merit.
I dont care for the hip hop stuff and the whole Britney and her clone things. I fackin hate rap. Rap is not music! so you could say i hate most modern sh!t!?
I guess you could say that I believe music was better years ago.
How many of todays music stars will prove to be marketable in 20 years? Only time will tell.
Most producers have ran out of ideas.
Rock is just re runs of old sounds, hip hop is progressing into a sad pop scene and the pop scene itself is a joke to music....

A particular band does not need to stand the 'test of time' in terms of their magnitude of popularity to be considered 'good' musicians. Marketability is rather irrelevant, at least if we are appreciating music here (not doing an economic profit analysis).

Judging an entire sector of music based on heavy rotation radio songs is foolish. Most commerical rap seems uninspired, but to draw the trigger so quickly on it without listening to more apt artists is not something an advocate for originality and music appreciation would do. It's easy to disdain the current music movement, but it's even easier to not fully grasp the movement by only considering popular acts.

PhishFood · 07-07-2005, 11:48 AM

Tell it brother!, that's the best post in this thread,

07-07-2005, 05:16 AM	#13 (permalink)
Krosstika Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dismal Euphonic Ol' Blighty Posts: 76	Well lets face it people...musicianship has become a lost art. Many guitarists in bands today would have trouble telling you the difference between a pentatonic and mixolydian scale!!! As the years pass us by, these great artists we look up to so dearly...will be with us no more and will be replaced by band's in the likes of 'Linkin Park' 'Green Day' 'Sum41' and...GAAAH! why do i bother...maybe there is no future!? nah...there is really...somewhere! i can see the future...holy sh!t...its a ferret!!!! __________________ Death Is Certain....Life Is Not

07-07-2005, 06:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
ArtistInTheAmbulance enchanted. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: cornwailles, angleterre. Posts: 2,537	^I wouldnt agree with that... Its just that Linkin Park, Sum 41 and Green Day and all that are more popular now. There's still really good quality music out there you just gotta look out for it. And as for the older vs newer thang... I dont know, it depends. Youd expect a band to get better over the years, seeing as theyve had more time to work together and can only get better. Normally for me, yeah, I prefer the older stuff.. Mebbe things get corrupted through business and crap... __________________ shake your wings like theyre laced with sound!

07-07-2005, 10:36 AM	#15 (permalink)
PhishFood Bottom-Feeder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The American Dreamscape Posts: 316	Prefering olderstuff is hipster cliche, even though it's well founded most the time.... It's true there's a shortage of quality musicians out there, but just look at all the undiscover indie bands, In 30 years no one will remember Good Charollette or Linkin park, but they probably will remeber Modest mouse and Radiohead. __________________ Winos don't march

07-07-2005, 10:55 AM	#16 (permalink)
Krosstika Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dismal Euphonic Ol' Blighty Posts: 76	^Aye, yer right Radiohead are very good, i wont complain about that... but out of a very small percentage of music like that other will fall into room 101 and be forgotten forever __________________ Death Is Certain....Life Is Not

07-07-2005, 11:06 AM	#17 (permalink)
PhishFood Bottom-Feeder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The American Dreamscape Posts: 316	yeah, but it's not like we rembered every great band of the 60s and 70s.... theres alot more than just what you hear on classic rock radio. __________________ Winos don't march

07-07-2005, 01:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 12,137	then: beatles zeppelin floyd who hendrix doors yes crimson ELP sabbath VS: now: good charlotte simple plan the libertines yellowcard slipknot linkin park green day ill go with then.

07-07-2005, 11:19 AM	#18 (permalink)
Krosstika Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dismal Euphonic Ol' Blighty Posts: 76	mmm, its just depending on what you appreciate really, each to there own i say! __________________ Death Is Certain....Life Is Not

07-07-2005, 11:48 AM	#20 (permalink)
PhishFood Bottom-Feeder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The American Dreamscape Posts: 316	Tell it brother!, that's the best post in this thread, __________________ Winos don't march